What could go wrong with a vacant house?

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Here in Nova Scotia, when people don't pay their property taxes for 2 or 3 years, the County warns them a few times, then threatens to sell the property for taxes owing. They have an auction sale, and high bidder wins, and has to pay the amount of the bid into a trust account. The property owner still has 6 more months to pay their taxes owing in full, and if they don't, the county processes a new deed to the buyer. If there are still people living in the house, the new owner has to use the Sheriff's office to get vacant possession.

Now the current situation! There are several properties for sale near where I will be retiring. One of them is 4 acres of oceanfront with a house that has sat vacant for 3-4 years. Taxes owing add up to $1800, and local residents say the owner and the wife both passed away and they had no kids. So the likelihood is the property will go to the successful bidder.

As the house has sat vacant for so long, what could be wrong with it? The obvious things that occur to me are mould formation (a bad thing that could get expensive), frozen pipes, corroded up well and pump, deteriorated septic system (this is a very rural property). The house actually doesn't LOOK too bad. Roof looks good, newish gutters. It would need to be scraped and painted, if the major mechanicals are salvageable. What else could there be that would be a problem? I am approaching the auction with a land-value-only price in mind, based on what other waterfront lots have recently sold for. Locals say if the house was in good livable condition, it would sell for about $90-100,000. I MAY end up buying it and having to demolish the house (yet another expense?). Anybody have any suggestions/caveats, thoughts? The house is in a rural area, with fishing and farming making up most of the employment. The property COULD be marketed to the large cities in eastern Canada/USA as vacation oceanfront property. My intent is to flip the property asap, one way or the other, either as land only, or house and land, or reno'd house and land. In any event, the minimum wait will be 6 months.
 

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   / What could go wrong with a vacant house?
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Here in Nova Scotia, when people don't pay their property taxes for 2 or 3 years, the County warns them a few times, then threatens to sell the property for taxes owing. They have an auction sale, and high bidder wins, and has to pay the amount of the bid into a trust account. The property owner still has 6 more months to pay their taxes owing in full, and if they don't, the county processes a new deed to the buyer. If there are still people living in the house, the new owner has to use the Sheriff's office to get vacant possession.

Now the current situation! There are several properties for sale near where I will be retiring. One of them is 4 acres of oceanfront with a house that has sat vacant for 3-4 years. Taxes owing add up to $1800, and local residents say the owner and the wife both passed away and they had no kids. So the likelihood is the property will go to the successful bidder.

As the house has sat vacant for so long, what could be wrong with it? The obvious things that occur to me are mould formation (a bad thing that could get expensive), frozen pipes, corroded up well and pump, deteriorated septic system (this is a very rural property). The house actually doesn't LOOK too bad. Roof looks good, newish gutters. It would need to be scraped and painted, if the major mechanicals are salvageable. What else could there be that would be a problem? I am approaching the auction with a land-value-only price in mind, based on what other waterfront lots have recently sold for. Locals say if the house was in good livable condition, it would sell for about $90-100,000. I MAY end up buying it and having to demolish the house (yet another expense?). Anybody have any suggestions/caveats, thoughts? The house is in a rural area, with fishing and farming making up most of the employment. The property COULD be marketed to the large cities in eastern Canada/USA as vacation oceanfront property. My intent is to flip the property asap, one way or the other, either as land only, or house and land, or reno'd house and land. In any event, the minimum wait will be 6 months.
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #3  
Here in NY It is similar. If you don't pay taxes for 3 years the County forecloses on your property. You have up til the day before the auction to pay your taxes in full. If you don't it goes up for auction to the highest bidder and the present owner who owed the tax cannot bid on it. In fact, if you are behind 3 years on your taxes you cant bid on any property. High bidder at auction becomes the new owner free and clear of any debt on property. Previous owner has lost all rights to it as of day before deadline.
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #4  
Here in NY It is similar. If you don't pay taxes for 3 years the County forecloses on your property. You have up til the day before the auction to pay your taxes in full. If you don't it goes up for auction to the highest bidder and the present owner who owed the tax cannot bid on it. In fact, if you are behind 3 years on your taxes you cant bid on any property. High bidder at auction becomes the new owner free and clear of any debt on property. Previous owner has lost all rights to it as of day before deadline.
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #5  
"deteriorated septic system (this is a very rural property). "

The septic will actually be better than ever after the rest. Unless of course a broken water line has been flooding it for several years.

I wish I could find an oceanfront house like that in may area for that kind of money. You can't even find 4 acres of decent rural land for that.
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #6  
"deteriorated septic system (this is a very rural property). "

The septic will actually be better than ever after the rest. Unless of course a broken water line has been flooding it for several years.

I wish I could find an oceanfront house like that in may area for that kind of money. You can't even find 4 acres of decent rural land for that.
 
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Oh, I suspect it won't sell for what's owing. There will likely be some bidding for this property. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
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Oh, I suspect it won't sell for what's owing. There will likely be some bidding for this property. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #9  
that house looks to be in excelent shape, for bein' vacant for that long.

the houses here, (former CFB Cornwallis) sat vacant for 10 years, b4 being repaired and sold.... most needed only minor, paint, and cleaning.
some had flooded lower levels, and seveare mould problems.
dead rodents, leaking roof's, causing water damage throughout the house ( that roof looks good)

nothing that can't be fixed i guess... just take money and time.

for $1800, i'd say that's a steal..

what part of ns is the house located in? almost looks familiar
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #10  
that house looks to be in excelent shape, for bein' vacant for that long.

the houses here, (former CFB Cornwallis) sat vacant for 10 years, b4 being repaired and sold.... most needed only minor, paint, and cleaning.
some had flooded lower levels, and seveare mould problems.
dead rodents, leaking roof's, causing water damage throughout the house ( that roof looks good)

nothing that can't be fixed i guess... just take money and time.

for $1800, i'd say that's a steal..

what part of ns is the house located in? almost looks familiar
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #11  
I have a summer home that sat vacant for 20 years. It needed a lot of updating but no major structural repairs other than what would have been needed over 20 years in an occupied home. So long as it was properly "shut down" (water, windows etc) and has not had any major roof leaks during vacancy or been vandalized, it should be fine.
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #12  
I have a summer home that sat vacant for 20 years. It needed a lot of updating but no major structural repairs other than what would have been needed over 20 years in an occupied home. So long as it was properly "shut down" (water, windows etc) and has not had any major roof leaks during vacancy or been vandalized, it should be fine.
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #13  
I would think varments would be the biggest problem. If cats or rats or pidgeons raccoons etc have moved in, the smell may be very hard to get rid of.

Cliff
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #14  
I would think varments would be the biggest problem. If cats or rats or pidgeons raccoons etc have moved in, the smell may be very hard to get rid of.

Cliff
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #15  
Plumbing, heating, mold and critters would be what I would look for as for the fixing. My in laws old place has been vacant for longer than that without any serious problems. My mothers house was empty for 6 years before he finally got the papers straightened out on that. My sisiter lives there now. Only the plumbing failed while the house was empty. That was due to water freezing in the pipes.
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #16  
Plumbing, heating, mold and critters would be what I would look for as for the fixing. My in laws old place has been vacant for longer than that without any serious problems. My mothers house was empty for 6 years before he finally got the papers straightened out on that. My sisiter lives there now. Only the plumbing failed while the house was empty. That was due to water freezing in the pipes.
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #17  
I bought my place at Sheriff’s auction. Had been empty for almost 2 years. No animals, just the smell from the 50 cats that had lived in the place for 10 years with the previous owner. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif (I love cats, so cat lovers don't give me any hassle)

I did a low cost remodel. Replaced all the carpet, washed all the walls, primed and painted everything.

My wife refused to ever live here when we first got in. With all the fixing up (sweat equity) she refuses to live anywhere else.

Best house I have ever owned. My wife loves the house and I love the 15 acres!
Bob
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #18  
I bought my place at Sheriff’s auction. Had been empty for almost 2 years. No animals, just the smell from the 50 cats that had lived in the place for 10 years with the previous owner. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif (I love cats, so cat lovers don't give me any hassle)

I did a low cost remodel. Replaced all the carpet, washed all the walls, primed and painted everything.

My wife refused to ever live here when we first got in. With all the fixing up (sweat equity) she refuses to live anywhere else.

Best house I have ever owned. My wife loves the house and I love the 15 acres!
Bob
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #19  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( sat vacant for 3-4 years. Taxes owing add up to $1800,)</font>

WOW I pay that every 2 months to the tax man for property taxes in NJ, with no ocean view. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

How hard is it for a US citizen to retire to Canada? We love PEI!, got to check this out. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / What could go wrong with a vacant house? #20  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( sat vacant for 3-4 years. Taxes owing add up to $1800,)</font>

WOW I pay that every 2 months to the tax man for property taxes in NJ, with no ocean view. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

How hard is it for a US citizen to retire to Canada? We love PEI!, got to check this out. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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