What do you need to make hay bales?

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upgw

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I've got 2.5 acres I'm not mowing regularly. Last year at the end of the season, I mowed it and left it there. It killed a lot fo the grass underneath. What would it take to make hay bales out of this? I think it's a sickle bar mower to cut it at the base, some kind of power rake to turn it over and put it in a row, and a baling machine. Can small versions of this stuff, suitable to a BX2200, be had affordably? Is it worthwhile? Best bet is probably to go find a local farmer I suppose.

Just wondering...

- Patrick W.
 
   / What do you need to make hay bales? #2  
Do a search on hay balers, I think you will find you need more tractor than a Bx.
 
   / What do you need to make hay bales? #3  
I don't know how big a BX22 is, but I am guessing 25HP or less. While many of the old farm tractors of this HP could pull a small hay baler, I would not recommend that you try it. The hay balers we use are New Holland Hayliners that are pulled by one of two 95 horse John Deeres. Like I said, you may be able to find a 30+ year old New Holland 68 or John Deere 14T with a Wisconsin Robin motor on it, but I think your Kubota would be mad at you for doing so.
When I was growing up in the 70's, we used a sickle bar mower, then a tedder (to fluff up the hay), then a rake (to windrow it) and finally, the baler. Sometimes we would ted it twice. The whole process takes about 3 days.
Also, you are looking at alot of equipment to purchase and maintain. However, if a farmer lives near you, and you want to play, get an old Grimm tedder (ground driven) and a pinwheel or side delivery rake. Don't buy a cheap mower unless you know alot about them, actually, take someone with you who knows about mowers. You can end up with something that looks OK, but won't mow-for-crap. The trick with a sickle bar mower is to mow at a decent clip (but not too fast). If the knife is sharp and the fingers are good, you will slice through hay like nobody'd business. If not, your mower will be full of pulled-up grass and you'll have a real mess. Not to mention that the belts will slip and you'll likely break something (done that).
Finally, have the farmer that you want to have bale it, look at the field first. If it's rocky, or muddy, he'll probably say "no thanks." Expect to pay $1.50 or so a bale for him to do it. Then you get to either pick it up off from the ground, or unload wagons.
To be honest, I think you should get a good rotary or flail mower and mow it once a month or so and buy your hay. 2.5 acres isn't a very big field.
Good Luck!!!
 
   / What do you need to make hay bales? #4  
While the BX2200 might have enough hp to run a small baler (it would be pushing it), it is entirly too light unless the field is perfectly flat and level. Your best bet is either to mow it more often, or have someone else put the hay up.
 
   / What do you need to make hay bales? #5  
An alternative would be to gather the hay loose, then feed it into a baler, by hand. It's a lot of work, but I've done it.
 
   / What do you need to make hay bales? #6  
Look up agriquip.com they carry small balers and rakes that require small horsepower tractors. But, these machines are not cheap. Tonutti, I think I spelled that right, they sell small sickle bar mowers and so does Enorossi both have web sites. But again these cutters are on the high side.
Solo
 
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Thanks for the info. The BX2200 is 22HP, I think it's 17.5 or so at the PTO at full/540 RPM. Baling just doesn't seem like it should need that much HP, but I guess it does, even the mini equipment at agriquip requires 18HP (engine I assume).

The field was used for hay for years, no rocks or mud, mostly level. Seems like a waste to just mow and leave it..

thanks again to everyone for their feedback.
Patrick W.
 
   / What do you need to make hay bales? #8  
There is another option, purchase an older baler with its own engine. When I started haying my 20 ac with my old TO30 I purchased a baler with a 2 cyl wisconsin engine on it, works great. You will need the hay raked into rows. Either pick up an older swather which will cut faster than a sickle mower and drop the hay in rows or get an older rake.
 
 

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