What happened to This Old House? omg

   / What happened to This Old House? omg #51  
Back in the 80's there was no shortage of project homes in my area... I avoided anything pre 1910 which meant I passed on many Victorian style homes... sure they could be stunning when restored... just didn't want to make my lifes work one home.

Over the years the landscaped has changed and fixers know no limits... my brother was looking at a run down home from neglect... elderly owners, roof leaks, etc... it still sold for close to a million... all about location!
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #52  
Chad - that looks like quite a project!! My first house was built in 1915 (I bought it in 1988). I paid $54,000 for it. I won't get into the full story, but the day after closing, a pipe burst in the unoccupied house and my move in was delayed by 3.5 months during the "restoration". Long story short - $28k damage to my $54k house!! Good news was that I had "replacement cost" on my homeowner's policy and most of the remodeling/updating that I was planning on doing over my first 5 years of ownership were taken care of before I moved in!!

Old houses are really cool and full of charm but they can be money pits. Be careful that you don't end up with a house that you've invested $100k into that's located in a neighborhood of $40k homes. I sold that first house in '96 for $75k, so I "made" $21k in 8 years. It was the first house on the street to break a $70k selling price. A year after I moved, the guy next door to me sold and moved as well. He had also done a lot to his house - we were basically the catalysts for the "neighborhood improvement program". I drove through that neighborhood a month or so ago and it's really gone downhill. My old house would probably only fetch around $60k now. Hopefully your restoration project is the catalyst for your own neighbors to keep things nice.

After I signed the contract and got to looking at the house more closely a month later I was thinking whether or not I made a good choice on buying the house. But then I got to thinking well I could be spending that $250.00 a month on a house or apartment and just Renting and not eventually owning so after thinking of it that way I figured at least it'd be something I'd own eventually and not just throwing money at rent.

The guy said a lot of people looked at the house and decided against it since it was in need of serious remodeling.

I figured it'd be a great starter "real home for me" as I've been living in a mobile home that is gonna be tore down probably this summer "it was given to me" the walls on it are rotted as well and not worth repairing and I really wanted out of the town I was living in.

And I figured a 10 year lease wasn't so bad. Even if my credit was good I didn't want to get into a huge debt or mortgage and buy more house than I could afford.

It was real exciting for me to sign that first lease/contract on my first house.

Also, I don't know what's wrong with your credit, but whatever it is, GET IT FIXED NOW!! Pay off your credit cards, take care of old debts, etc. And once you have stuff paid off, don't run up your cards or buy stuff you can't afford again. Having good credit will help you much more than you can imagine right now. And, don't forget to save just a little bit of each paycheck in an account that you can't/won't touch until you retire. You'll thank me for this advice in 30 years!! :)

What ruined my credit is I signed some forms for some credit cards when I was young "I think I was 16" I was stupid then and signed the forms figuring they would deny me a credit cards as I said I had no job, no income or anything.

A few weeks later those credit cards showed up in the mail. I should have not activated them and used them. But I did. I had one with $1,000.00 limit and one with $500.00 limit and maxed them both out. "Stupid mistake" and I regret it everyday.

Though I did spend some of it on groceries for my family and I. But most of it I went spending it like I was rich. That was a stupid mistake as I didn't have the money to pay it off. "And neither did my parents" and I wasn't expecting them too.

When I did have the money I did at least pay some on it. But I didn't have enough income to pay them off.

For the young folks out there "a quote from the song" back when I knew it all. "Credit cards don't mean you're rich and if you can't pay it back don't use it. It will screw up your credit.

I've been trying to get those paid off and hopefully I'll have them paid off soon.

My dad had bad credit before too and buying a car from this dealer who accepts bad credit and by making timely payments really helped his credit score. :cool2:
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #53  
Best is to learn on move on...

Think it's a great your are on the path to own and this way you can learn and repair as your budget allows... this is exactly what I did and 30 years later still own the home. Made it a rental and am on my second family now... also keep the rent low... no increase in 10 years and it takes care of itself...
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #54  
Best is to learn on move on...

Think it's a great your are on the path to own and this way you can learn and repair as your budget allows... this is exactly what I did and 30 years later still own the home. Made it a rental and am on my second family now... also keep the rent low... no increase in 10 years and it takes care of itself...

Thanks. I love projects and always loved to work with electrical, plumbing and carpentry.

I'm not the best drywaller, but this house will give me some experience in hanging and mudding drywall.

Years down the road I can look back and think of the day I signed the contract and stand back and look at the work I done on the house and be proud of the house.

Maybe one day if I get married and have kids I can tell the kid/kids the story on how I bought my first house in need of repairs and did all the repair work myself and can show them the pics.

Here's a few more pics of the living room with the drywall installed. I haven't drywalled around the window yet because I need to re frame the window.

livingroomafter1.jpglivingroom3after.jpglivingroom2after.jpglivingroomafter5.jpg

There's more before and after pics on my forum at Pics of the 100 year old house I'm remodeling
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #55  
The fact that TOH went upscale never bothered me. I could still learn techniques from the show, learn about new products, etc. The rest of the show was interesting and entertaining. Plus, by the time they went upscale, there were plenty of other DIY shows that showed the basics.
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #56  
I ended up putting in all new Sheetrock too... that was after I carefully insulated the walls and put in electrical.

Living there I concentrated on one area at a time... took the better part of a year to clean up the inside working nights and weekends.

The first thing I did was strip off all the layers of old roof and put down new with double coverage 30# felt and premium shingles...
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #57  
Boston is a great area but real pricey. Even small houses with tiny lots are big bucks. And some of the towns shown on the show are pretty upscale.

This Old House did a renovation in our neighborhood. We got to talk with the owners afterwards and it was interesting. The show rarely if ever talks budget but these are almost all high budget renovations. Our neighbors had moved from Alabama and were already facing sticker shock with the purchase of an older home in a green leafy Boston suburb. When TOH came along and selected them they figured they might be investing another few hundred thousand to go through the house and do mostly kitchen, baths and HVAC. The initial figure proposed by TOH was closer to $900,000. Yow. They ended up doing it for something in between but it was very expensive. Basically, even though the show is homey and gives you the impression it is a DIY project, it is in fact full retail with high end contracting/subcontracting for everything. The TOH landscaper sent his son to Harvard. Pretty sure he didn't need financial aid.
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #58  
I think the most telling episode I watched TOH was discussing the project and told the owner the project would cost $35,000 and they could expect a 83% return on the investment when they sold. ?? Why would you spend the money if it was a loosing proposition?
The owners were happy with the idea. ???
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #59  
I think the most telling episode I watched TOH was discussing the project and told the owner the project would cost $35,000 and they could expect a 83% return on the investment when they sold. ?? Why would you spend the money if it was a loosing proposition? The owners were happy with the idea. ???

Almost no home improvements give a 100% return on investment. You have to take into account that the homeowners get the benefit of the improvement.
 
   / What happened to This Old House? omg #60  
I think the most telling episode I watched TOH was discussing the project and told the owner the project would cost $35,000 and they could expect a 83% return on the investment when they sold. ?? Why would you spend the money if it was a loosing proposition?
The owners were happy with the idea. ???

Actually, an 83% ROI is not too bad. Most "custom" rennovations and big jobs don't pay back 1-to-1 when you sell. Money magazine did a study a while back that came up with the following typical returns:

Renovations that bring the greatest percentage return on investment:
  • Deck addition (wood): 87.4 percent
  • Attic bedroom: 84.3 percent
  • Minor kitchen remodel: 82.7 percent

Renovations that yield the smallest return:
  • Home office remodel: 48.9 percent
  • Sunroom addition: 51.7 percent
  • Bathroom addition: 60.1 percent
  • Backup power generation: 67.5 percent
  • Master suite addition: 67.5 percent

The REMODELING.com website has a recent report with more ROIs as well:

Cost vs. Value 2014 | National | Remodeling

Of course, most of these figures are for "remodeling" and not for "fix up a house in bad shape" kinds of projects. Flipping a house after taking it from "unlivable" to "nice" is a different story entirely.
 

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