Box Scraper WHAT IS IT, is it ROLL OVER SCRAPER BLADE or BOX BLADE

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DocDryden

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JD 110 TLB
I need some help with blade, What is it used for? How is it different than a Box Blade. All I have is two photos no brand or model number. Seller is out of town until later this week. Any info would be appreciated.

Here is the description from the seller.
It's a heavy-duty 7 ft. scraper box. It is a roll over model with two full cutting edges. It also has a tool bar that would accommodate up to 7 ripper shanks.

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Doc,
It is a roll over box blade.

On a 110 I would go with a Gannon if you have the rear outlets on it. A new or used 7ft Gannon would be a good match for your tractor with topntilt hydraulics. I don't have pictures of mine on the 110 but I bought them together new and used this combination before getting the 4520.
 

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A box blade & box scraper are the same thing, just a different name.

A rollover box blade works more or less like a normal box blade, only you pull a lever to scrape forwards, backwards, or use the ripper teeth. They tend to be heavier, beefier & stronger than a normal box blade.
 
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It is a Rollover Box Blade. They are designed for use on tractors without rear remote hydraulics. They are quite a bit heavier per foot of width than a 'standard' box blade and therefore more expensive.

You can pull dirt, smooth dirt, push dirt to the rear in a limited fashion and rip with the scarifiers down.

ROBB's require less adjustment in use, relative to a 'standard' box blade.

ROBB's make excellent ballast on your Three Point Hitch.

Makers: Bush Hog, Dirt Dog, A-B Eagleline, Woods/several brands; maybe others.

I have purchased replacement generic scarifiers, cheap, from Agri-Supply. Unfortunately, shipping is about equal to cost of scarifiers.

A VALUE PRICE on a 7' ROBB, incomplete because it does not have scarifiers, would be $600.

You will probably need to spray lithium grease onto the two latches, four latch blocks and latch bar pivots. Also, spray two latch-lever return springs with spray lithium grease to prevent rust and failure. All easy to do.
 

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   / WHAT IS IT, is it ROLL OVER SCRAPER BLADE or BOX BLADE
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Doc,
On a 110 I would go with a Gannon if you have the rear outlets on it. A new or used 7ft Gannon would be a good match for your tractor with topntilt hydraulics. I don't have pictures of mine on the 110 but I bought them together new and used this combination before getting the 4520.

Yes I do have the rear outlets on my tractor. I would like to buy the Gannon blade but used ones are hard to find. I took some photos of what I need the blade for. I would like to level the field so could plant some grass, after I rip out the rest of the autumn olive trees. It is difficult to see in the photos but the ground is a mess.

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Light Box Blades are available used because they do not work, so people dispose of them.

Construction grade Box Blades last, so they are not often available used until worn out.

This ROBB is right in the middle and desirable. TnT works fine with a ROBB; just not essential.
 
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I will try to contact the seller tomorrow, maybe I can get a price, brand name, and a model number
 
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Someone has slopped paint on it. You need a visit to determine if owner-paint is hiding structural flaws.
 
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Someone has slopped paint on it. You need a visit to determine if owner-paint is hiding structural flaws.

After a closer look at the photos, I can see what looks like paint on the ground! I don't know how I missed that!!! Thanks jeff9366.

There's another blade that I am thinking about, it's 72" x 24" with 6 shanks, no name on the blade model BB6. My plan is to used this blade until I can get my hands on a good use 7 ft Gannon

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Keep in mind Gannon, under the Gannon family, made the highest quality ROBB's. ROBBs are what made Gannon's reputation.
 
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After a closer look at the photos, I can see what looks like paint on the ground! I don't know how I missed that!!! Thanks jeff9366.

There's another blade that I am thinking about, it's 72" x 24" with 6 shanks, no name on the blade model BB6. My plan is to used this blade until I can get my hands on a good use 7 ft Gannon

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That second box blade would have to be cheap to consider it. I would prefer the ROBB you pictured first if it is in good shape, lots of people paint them up to sell.

For a used Gannon I would keep an eye out on large rental yards as they tend to rotate their inventory for tax purposes. There have been a few threads where some of the members have found them in good condition for $800 to $1200, Good luck with the search.
 
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That ROBB is not a Gannon, but is still a VERY good implement and would serve you well. If the price is right, you will get it and most likely be very happy and forget about even looking for the industrial grade Gannon box blade that everyone wants. If you do not have top & tilt, you will be better off with the ROBB. With a ROBB, you can basically set the top link adjustment and be done with it. No continual adjusting needed as with a std type box.

Good luck with your decision. ;)
 
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Well I finally got in touch with the owner of the blade. He said it's not been painted, there is no brand name on it. He has had it about 8 years, (yes it's been outside) it has not been used. He thought it was made by Caterpillar. He wants $900. Est weight 750 to 800 lbs, the thickness of the metal is from 3/8" to 1/2". it's a 3 1/2 hour drive from me.
 
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If it costs 70 cents a mile to operate your vehicle, minimum, what will be your round-trip cost?
 
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231 x 2 (round trip) $323.
 
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The opening for the rippers are 2 1/2'' x 1'' I will need 7 of them.
 
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With the long distance to get it, it has been painted, otherwise the cutting edges would not be the same color as the rest of the implement and you can clearly see paint on the ground and the need for all of the rippers, you are probably with in $500 of just purchasing a new unit from Eagleline.

So one of these deals that really isn't any deal at all. $500 would be my top offer considering your circumstances.

Good luck. ;)
 
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