What is it with appliances these days?

   / What is it with appliances these days? #31  
he said if you get 10 years out of the new ones you will be lucky .The service rep . said he even buys the warranty plans now as he knows how much parts are and they just don't last anymore .


I heard the exact same advice from the repair technician who came out to service my new energy efficient refrigerator 2days after delivery because of failed part. :rolleyes:
 
   / What is it with appliances these days? #32  
Bosch dishwashers were so bad I wrote an Amazon review as a warning, writing,

We were promised that this Bosch dishwasher was not only quiet, but very good at cleaning. After we got it home and properly installed, I was impressed at how quiet the Bosch dishwasher really was. Sadly, I now know why the Bosh dishwasher is quiet: This Bosch dishwasher is quiet because it isn't getting anything clean! It didn't blast salad bits out of a salad bowl. Instead, it made them shiny and hard and with the uber heat cycle, doubtlessly sanitary as well. Chucks of rice resumed their former glory before they were boiled and goo left over from cutting a pie was left on a serving knife. Ewe. The new Bosch SHE43P22UC dishwasher didn't clean or dry dishes and its racks are such a bad design that I'm going to try and return it today and buy a different, not-Bosch dishwasher after two whole days of frustrating Bosch dishwasher ownership. If the shop won't take it back, this thing is going onto Craigs List.

Who thought this was a good dishwasher?

One star for living up to the hype of being quiet, negative stars for not getting anything clean and making me uninstall it and install another dishwasher. Bad dishwasher, no dinner!​

We've had good luck with Ammana, Maytag, and lately with Fridigaire Gallery. Oh and Panasonic microwaves. Not. One. Failure.

I can only report my own results. :D The Bosch dishwasher I have had eight years of good luck with is a SHE56C06UC /38 model.

I don't think we use our dishwasher the same as you. Everything gets rinsed fairly well before it goes in, and since it's just the two of us, the dishes may set there for two-three days before the dishwasher runs. Drys great too. And very quiet.

We don't have a disposal since we are are on a septic system. The rinsed bits get caught in a drain screen and then into the compost pile bucket.
 
   / What is it with appliances these days? #33  
You have the SAME dishwasher? Is she cheating on me, or you?

I see you have had yours 25 yrs., I've had mine for 10 yrs., must be cheating on you, or might be identical twins or look alikes, or perhaps I'm trying to do a cover up, what ever it is I'm hoping to keep her.
 
   / What is it with appliances these days? #34  
26 + year old GE washer and dryer. Only issue is had to replace the dryer belt once. Not effecient, washer sounds like a jet engine when filling. Wife and I both want new ones but they are expense and disposable items now. Paid about $1000 for the set in Dec 87 at broadview appliances in Oak Harbor Wa. delivered two days before Christmas to our newly bought house.

mark
 
   / What is it with appliances these days?
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#35  
Awesome to read this now. Wife and I are building a house and will be in the market for all new appliances in a few months. I've been pouring through hundreds of models across all different brands for the past year and a half. My only goal is to find the stuff that will last the longest and suit my particular kitchen needs. Washer/dryer stuff is the wife's concern. There's nothing more annoying than a POS new appliance!

Well, like I said in the first post, it may not even matter what you pick since you can find lousy reviews for almost any appliance on the internet, much to my chagrin when trying to make decisions.

What I did learn, was that in terms of features and technology, it was not possible to find a single brand that had everything right across the whole model lineup. So we ended up with a mongrel mix of appliances, just trying to sniff out the best of each type for us. Some friends went with high end Wolf appliances for everything in their kitchen, and are now realizing that many of them are really not too hot. That is unfortunate, as they spent a lot of money on that stuff.

Here's what we ended up with, and some comments:

Dishwasher: the aforementioned Kenmore Elite that dropped its pump. Made by the Whirlpool/Frigidaire/Maytag/Kitchenaid/Etc monstrosity. Key features were quietness (42dB) and user friendly racks and controls. Does a fine job cleaning. Demerit for the massive failure, but I am hoping it behaves from here on out, as we do like it otherwise. Bosch units were higher rated, and would have been my choice, but my wife did not like the rack design and I defer to her on kitchen chores (else she'll make me do the washing).

Stove/Range: GE Cafe electric unit. Previously had bad experience with GE appliances at old house, but this was a high end unit and recommended by the supplier we used. It's a glass top, which I previously hated due to the wimpy heat response. But this one has a lot of power, and comes close to the heating response of gas. So far it's been good. It has a cast iron griddle tray that goes over two burners and cooks the best darn pancakes of any stove I've used.

Microwave drawer: Sharp. By a long shot, they make the best microwave drawer. High end brands like Viking and Wolf are four times the price but don't come close. This is probably the only appliance in the house I could recommend without any reservations. Great little unit.

Fridge: KitchenAid Architect side by side. Mainly bought it for the size (counter depth / tall) and looks (has commercial handles and looks a lot more expensive than it is). It mostly works OK, but many of the shelves are fixed, and should be adjustable. The ice maker water supply line (internal to the freezer door) freezes up a couple times a year and goes on arctic holiday for 4-5 days at a time. Despite that tendency, water from the door dispenser always comes out room temperature. Only idiots could design a fridge that sometimes freezes the water line to the ice maker, but lets the dispenser line get warm. Both lines are in the same freaking door!

Range hood: Viking. Surprisingly, it was the cheapest chimney style hood, less expensive than more down to earth brands. I think it cost 50% less than the GE Cafe hood that would have matched our stove. It has jet engine performance, good lights, and very nice filters. No real complaints, but the building inspector made us install it exactly 36" above the stove surface per specs, and I occasionally hit my head on it. For a 6'1" person like me, it should have been a few inches higher. I really should have bribed the building inspector on this one.

Washer/Dryer: LG. Mainly got these because the features were very good and they were highly rated. No real complaints other than it's a water-saver washing machine (top load) and we had to relearn how to do laundry. I prefer the ancient Maytag we had at our old house, that I used to load up like it was a commercial unit. Sadly, the Maytags of yore no longer exist.

We ended up shopping and acquiring appliances over about an 8 month period prior to moving into our new home. Basically watched for sales and jumped on deals. I think the best score was at Sears over Veterans Day weekend, where we got $600 off the dishwasher and $150 off the microwave drawer. Washer/dryer were Thanksgiving week sales at Home Depot. Only downside to this approach is that I had to stockpile those appliances at our old house for all that time, and we ended up converting the dining room to a warehouse. Then had to move everything to the new place when it was time to install before moving in. Stove, fridge, and range hood came from our builder's supplier, who had the best prices, and they delivered/installed for us.
 
   / What is it with appliances these days? #36  
LOL - me too. I'm building in the spring, so I'll have to figure all of this out pretty soon. First is to decide if I want my kitchen on electric or propane - maybe there's a thread for that :)

Consider induction, we remodeled a few years ago and were going to go with the propane I like cooking with gas better heat control. But as luck would have it the gas company keep putting us off on the installation so I stopped in the local appliances store and he talked me into the induction stove. Cooks as good if not better than gas, can boil water in 90 seconds. I will never go back to a regular electric. By the way if you have young children if you leave the burner on it will be warm from the heat transfer from the pan but never as hot as a gas or electric burner after use. I can turn my burner on high and put my hand on the burner. Told my wife if she ever makes me move the stove is coming with me.
 
   / What is it with appliances these days? #37  
I totally agree, my farm house has some old kenmore appliances probably late 70's or 80's washer & dryer. we recently bought NEW ones for the city house, GE brand were total junk that went back after 2 weeks to Home depot (HD were great & treated us really fair.) The GE low height agitator top load washer would not even get clothing wet. HD let us trade the GE crap back in for better units at same price & we went for Maytag units. Well now 2 and half year later the matag washer is junk, (it was replaced month or two after we bought it as it was totally dead again by HD under warranty.) So now this washer was not cheap, close to 1k, high speed spin sounds like someone tossed in a pile of gravel into the gearbox... still running but for just two adults use I would give it 3 thumbs down. When it finally dumps I'm looking thru the free CL list for an OLD one and will fix it and use that over these very expensive low water use things that don't clean.

We also have 2 rather new refrigerators, both of them are either freezing food or suddenly making noise and not cooling. One we bought for her mom, who passed away suddenly a few weeks later. The other we bought for ourselves a year or so prior to that. I put her mom's into the farm house replacing a late 80's model kenmore (another mistake.) The old kenmore was still working good but figured the then 1 year old one would save some $... yep another mistake...


Mark
 
   / What is it with appliances these days? #38  
I have a Kenmore dishwasher that is a bit over a year old, maybe I should check that clamp. I've already had to repair the upper rack slide wheels because they broke off, no sense buying new slides that will break again when you can fix it with a locknut and bolt. The dishwasher before that lasted 10 years, the circuit board pretty much caught on fire. I woke up in the middle of the night to a putrid burnt component smell. Sad because I replaced the chopper blade setup not long before but glad my house didn't burn down.

Glass top stove has been fine, probably the only appliance I haven't done much to except for replacing the glass top. Not the stoves fault seeing something fell off the fridge and cracked it.

Fridge is a Kenmore side by side, maybe 11 years old. Replaced the icemaker a couple times because the timer wheel breaks. The door shelves also have been replaced and are cracking again. One of the drawers is also broken but it still runs pretty well.

Dryer was replaced a couple years ago and so far so good...GE unit. Old one was also GE and lasted maybe 12 years or so. I had to replace the drum guides at one point but then the heating element and something else went. Wasn't worth repairing.

Last appliance to go was the washer. Another Kenmore that started leaking plus the motor coupler was going bad for the 3rd time. That unit was maybe 15 years old, not much for electronics. I planned on repairing it until I found the rod the drum rides on had worn grooves in it from the brass bearings. That's a $150 part and a ton of work. I'm thinking I should have fixed it anyway. Seems none of the new washers fill with enough water to cover the clothes, drives my wife nuts so now only partial loads. This particular top load GE washer we bought is supposed to be one that fills the most of any of them out there. How do these things clean the clothes? It is quiet until it hits the spin cycle then it sounds like a jet engine.

Run those old appliances as long as you can. Maybe I'll watch CL for an old but good washer.
 
   / What is it with appliances these days? #39  
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I can only report my own results. :D The Bosch dishwasher I have had eight years of good luck with is a SHE56C06UC /38 model.

I don't think we use our dishwasher the same as you. Everything gets rinsed fairly well before it goes in, and since it's just the two of us, the dishes may set there for two-three days before the dishwasher runs. Drys great too. And very quiet.

We don't have a disposal since we are are on a septic system. The rinsed bits get caught in a drain screen and then into the compost pile bucket.

We don't pre-rince, but they do get as clean as my two dogs can get them.
 
   / What is it with appliances these days? #40  
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We don't pre-rince, but they do get as clean as my two dogs can get them.

That should work. :laughing: Since our dogs are tall enough to stand next to the table and lick a plate, we don't (I'm not allowed to :rolleyes:) use that method. You know how dogs tend to get conveniently confused about the order of things.
 

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