dnw64
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Just make sure that, if you have an electronic parking brake (almost all newer vehicles) that you know how to make it work when you're moving.
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Or just run into whatever is in front of you... which seems to be the logic of driving in snow with ABS.
My first company truck was a 2004 F150.
Personal truck was a 1998 Sierra with the ABS disabled. One day I did a trial; 45 mph on an unplowed road with each truck, I then checked stopping distance. I drove my truck the way that I normally do; with the F150 I stomped on the brakes as hard as I could.
Stopping distance for the Ford was 50% farther.
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And it was ME!!!!!
If I take the time to write something, I expect the entire internet to commit it to permanent memory; otherwise, what am I even doing here????
That's obvious. You're here to memorize all of my posts and eulogize me, of course!!!
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In the "You Know You Are Old" thread, you recently shared that you once had to remove your own catheter. When I read that, I recalled that you had previously shared that experience. So it appears that little tidbit IS part of my permanent long-term memory.That's obvious. You're here to memorize all of my posts and eulogize me, of course!!!
That's going to be part of your eulogy.
OK. Please do me a favor and remind me not to post that a THIRD time!!!!In the "You Know You Are Old" thread, you recently shared that you once had to remove your own catheter. When I read that, I recalled that you had previously shared that experience. So it appears that little tidbit IS part of my permanent long-term memory.
That's going to be part of your eulogy.
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The reason I sold an otherwise great VW Golf R with new highly rated snow/ice tires was that its overactive antilock brakes took about 150 feet more come to a stop on hardpacked snow than did my completely manual '72 MGB with worn 12 year old tires.
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Hey... better to have to remove it on your own, than install it! Not that I'd know, but I can imagine.
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There are a lot of variables at play, here. Different days and conditions, but also probably different tire widths, vehicle weights, etc. It would be a better comparison if you just disabled the antilock on the Golf and tested that.
The problem I spot with all the claims people have made about sensing a skid and pumping their own brakes, is that an anitlock wheel sensor will always sense a skid many hundreds of times faster than a driver (tens of milliseconds versus seconds). People fail to mentally tally how far they traveled at their original speed, before they even detected a slide and started applying the brakes, when naming their stopping distances. This is probably the most critical factor of all, as your car might have traveled more than 100 feet before you even noticed a locked wheel, whereas the antilock system would have detected that and started acting much sooner.
Beyond that, remember that most modern antilock systems operate independently on each wheel, rather than removing and subsequently pumping the pressure on three other wheels that had never even lost traction in that sub-second window of time. Not only that, but most systems today will pump the brakes up to 20 times per second if needed, versus maybe 1 - 2 times per second for a foot on a pedal.