tomfifield
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Can I shift with out clutching, like forward to reverse? What about gears on the stick? I do not want to clutch for FEL work. I used a tractor that you did not need to clutch the other day and it was easy to use.
What is suttle transmission on L3400?
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DK35vince
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Can I shift with out clutching, like forward to reverse?)</font>
No, with the 3400 You need to use the clutch to shift forward/reverse.
You need to move up to the Grand L models to get the Glideshift option.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( What about gears on the stick ?)</font>
You also need to clutch to shift gears. The main transmission is not sycronized so you also need to stop to shift gears.
No, with the 3400 You need to use the clutch to shift forward/reverse.
You need to move up to the Grand L models to get the Glideshift option.
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( What about gears on the stick ?)</font>
You also need to clutch to shift gears. The main transmission is not sycronized so you also need to stop to shift gears.
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You may want to try an L3400 HST. I have one and it is really easy to drive. It has a lot of power too. I was pretty much a gear man until I tried this. I'm very happy with it.
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tomfifield
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Thanks I will probably go L3400 hst or one of the grands.
TonyV
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DK35vince wrote:</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You also need to clutch to shift gears. The main transmission is not sycronized so you also need to stop to shift gears.)</font>
This is partially true. The transmission on the L3400DT is partially synchronized. Of course you always have to use the clutch when changing gears, but you can shift all 4 transmission gears on the go (synchronized) when the shuttle is in LO. It is not synchronized when the shuttle is in HI. Shifting the shuttle from LO to HI or into reverse also requires using the clutch, with the tractor stopped, as the shuttle is not synchronized, nor would you want it to be. For most tractor work your going to have the tractor in a gear thats suitible for the torque/speed requirements of the job, and leave it there. Sometimes I get the impression that new tractor owners feel that they need to change gears when driving like you would on a car, but of course this is not the case. About the only time that I use the shuttle or change gears when working is if I'm doing certain FEL work. For instance, I'd typically use a lower gear to dig into a pile of dirt or rock (more torque) and use a little higher gear for transport to wherever the pile is being moved to. If you think you're going to be doing a lot of FEL work, then the HST transmission may be more of a convenience. Realize though that the HST will add about $1500 to the price of the tractor, and you'll have less HP available at the PTO as compared to the gear drive. This is the reason that I chose the gear drive tranny. Add to that, that the gear drive is a simpler mechanism and less costly to repair should something malfunction in the future, so it also appealed to my KISS mentality. Bottom line is that it comes down to a personal preference as to whether you go with a gear drive or HST transmission.
...Tony
This is partially true. The transmission on the L3400DT is partially synchronized. Of course you always have to use the clutch when changing gears, but you can shift all 4 transmission gears on the go (synchronized) when the shuttle is in LO. It is not synchronized when the shuttle is in HI. Shifting the shuttle from LO to HI or into reverse also requires using the clutch, with the tractor stopped, as the shuttle is not synchronized, nor would you want it to be. For most tractor work your going to have the tractor in a gear thats suitible for the torque/speed requirements of the job, and leave it there. Sometimes I get the impression that new tractor owners feel that they need to change gears when driving like you would on a car, but of course this is not the case. About the only time that I use the shuttle or change gears when working is if I'm doing certain FEL work. For instance, I'd typically use a lower gear to dig into a pile of dirt or rock (more torque) and use a little higher gear for transport to wherever the pile is being moved to. If you think you're going to be doing a lot of FEL work, then the HST transmission may be more of a convenience. Realize though that the HST will add about $1500 to the price of the tractor, and you'll have less HP available at the PTO as compared to the gear drive. This is the reason that I chose the gear drive tranny. Add to that, that the gear drive is a simpler mechanism and less costly to repair should something malfunction in the future, so it also appealed to my KISS mentality. Bottom line is that it comes down to a personal preference as to whether you go with a gear drive or HST transmission.
...Tony
N80
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I find myself very busy with my L4400 when using the FEL. However, it also becomes second nature and I do it without having to think about it.
I've found that I put the gearshift in second and leave it there for the back and forth work close to the job. If I need to move around a little, I keep it in second but throw it in high.
I'm quite happy with the arrangement since I also like the simplicity of a gear drive system. The only negative is that I have 42 year old knees and after an hour or two the 'clutch' knee starts to get a little sore. But I'll live.
I've found that I put the gearshift in second and leave it there for the back and forth work close to the job. If I need to move around a little, I keep it in second but throw it in high.
I'm quite happy with the arrangement since I also like the simplicity of a gear drive system. The only negative is that I have 42 year old knees and after an hour or two the 'clutch' knee starts to get a little sore. But I'll live.
schole
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Ha! George, I was going to write the same thing you did!! 2nd is where I leave it most of the time for loader work/transport too. I can control a wide range of ground speed with the foot throttle. I love the solidity and simplicity of gears...nothing like the old clunkers I grew up on either.
Shawn
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DK35vince
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( This is partially true. The transmission on the L3400DT is partially synchronized. Of course you always have to use the clutch when changing gears, but you can shift all 4 transmission gears on the go (synchronized) when the shuttle is in LO. )</font>
Tony,
I did not know that from reading the Kubota L 3400 fliers.
Just my opinion, but Kubota should show a partially syncronized transmission in their sales fliers. I feel it would help a buyer when trying to compare differant makes and models.
My L3400 flier only shows sliding gear/constant mesh transmission.
Tony,
I did not know that from reading the Kubota L 3400 fliers.
Just my opinion, but Kubota should show a partially syncronized transmission in their sales fliers. I feel it would help a buyer when trying to compare differant makes and models.
My L3400 flier only shows sliding gear/constant mesh transmission.
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tomfifield
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So you do not think it is to bad using the clutch for FEL work? Will a gear drive also give me more power at the wheels? I tryed a B7800 today, we have one at work. The hst peddles seemed far away from each other, I could get used to it. I liked the tractor but think it is a bit small for my needs. I am still thinking over the $1500 extra and less hp. At first I will be doing a lot of FEL work. In the brochure Kubota totes the gear drive as reliable, this is a plus.
TonyV
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Tom, heres a link to a PDF file at the Kubota site that compares the specifications of the L series tractors.
L Series Specifications
Hope this helps.
...Tony
L Series Specifications
Hope this helps.
...Tony
