knucklehead
Platinum Member
Hey JR, Bird - I've been out for a couple days playing with wood, and tractors. I'm tempted to elaborate, 'cause the wood is walnut I thought was gonna be firewood, and the tractor is my neighbors' new L4330 (to be delivered in 1-1/2 weeks) with cool implements, but I gotta stick to the subject at hand.
A couple things JR: I think the subject of advanced mechanics is really cool. I specifically dig machine shop type technology, and someday I want learn more about the subject. I want to set up a couple tools I have stuck in the garage to do projects like rechambering rifle barrels and such. Even though I am ignorant of the specifics, I am right with ya when you talk about aircraft subjects. Your picture of the yellow engine hanging off your bucket is one I still go look at once in while. In fact, not to belabor the point, but I was planning to go into the Navy before I got enough loans and grants to go to college. I was going to pursue aviation mechanics, and either make it a career in the service, or come out and try to work for an airport or aircraft manufacturer. So I'm totally with you on the points you make regarding the demands and specialized tools and techniques required for aircraft work. But I think the conversation about 6pt vs 12 pt and what's junk and what's not is a little misleading to anyone who is new to this, and even to me, since I am trying to learn as much as I can and not just assume I know things - even simple things like the proper sockets to use. In fact, I took your comments about thicker walls with 6 pts to be a positive thing, and it's why I bought them over the years, and why I use them everywhere I can. My experience is I have less round over and less nut damage in higher torque situations. Which is what you implied 6 pts are for - higher torque situations. So on this tractor board, I think you make a good case for using 6 pts, even though your points about more delicate fasteners are well made. ("My, what delicate fasteners you have, Grandmother!" /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)
A properly maintained fastener will respond as well to a 12 pt as a 6.....chasing threads with a tap or die to clean them up, using anti seize vs oil on threads, etc....proper torque, i.e. bolt stretch.......another subject entirely.
Now, regarding gear wrenches, thank you for clarifying the difference....I thought they were all the same, even the reversing ones. It seems the ones you say are better turn in one direction, and are "reversed" by flipping the wrench over - I think even I can handle that.
Finally, it wasn't me talking about 6 vs 12 pts, it was bgott, but I'll take the heat. He makes good points, but we can go on about this forever, because we're looking at it from two different perspectives. I also work on automotive and not aircraft stuff, so my 12 pts stay in the tray - but that doesn't mean you are of unsure parentage because you use them, JR /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Happy Easter to all
A couple things JR: I think the subject of advanced mechanics is really cool. I specifically dig machine shop type technology, and someday I want learn more about the subject. I want to set up a couple tools I have stuck in the garage to do projects like rechambering rifle barrels and such. Even though I am ignorant of the specifics, I am right with ya when you talk about aircraft subjects. Your picture of the yellow engine hanging off your bucket is one I still go look at once in while. In fact, not to belabor the point, but I was planning to go into the Navy before I got enough loans and grants to go to college. I was going to pursue aviation mechanics, and either make it a career in the service, or come out and try to work for an airport or aircraft manufacturer. So I'm totally with you on the points you make regarding the demands and specialized tools and techniques required for aircraft work. But I think the conversation about 6pt vs 12 pt and what's junk and what's not is a little misleading to anyone who is new to this, and even to me, since I am trying to learn as much as I can and not just assume I know things - even simple things like the proper sockets to use. In fact, I took your comments about thicker walls with 6 pts to be a positive thing, and it's why I bought them over the years, and why I use them everywhere I can. My experience is I have less round over and less nut damage in higher torque situations. Which is what you implied 6 pts are for - higher torque situations. So on this tractor board, I think you make a good case for using 6 pts, even though your points about more delicate fasteners are well made. ("My, what delicate fasteners you have, Grandmother!" /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)
A properly maintained fastener will respond as well to a 12 pt as a 6.....chasing threads with a tap or die to clean them up, using anti seize vs oil on threads, etc....proper torque, i.e. bolt stretch.......another subject entirely.
Now, regarding gear wrenches, thank you for clarifying the difference....I thought they were all the same, even the reversing ones. It seems the ones you say are better turn in one direction, and are "reversed" by flipping the wrench over - I think even I can handle that.
Finally, it wasn't me talking about 6 vs 12 pts, it was bgott, but I'll take the heat. He makes good points, but we can go on about this forever, because we're looking at it from two different perspectives. I also work on automotive and not aircraft stuff, so my 12 pts stay in the tray - but that doesn't mean you are of unsure parentage because you use them, JR /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Happy Easter to all
