Tires What kind of tires?

Truck9 · Sep 26, 2004

Just ordered a ck20hst and it will come with the Ag1 tires standard. It appears that the ind1 tires are more popular???
Why is that?...Does the ind1 tires provide more traction??? are they better on soft grass?, more stable?.... and if I were to change would I have to go to wider implements as the ind1 tires appear to be considerably wider (I ordered the 47" tiller and 48" box scraper with the tractor). I ordered the above implements on the fact that they would cover my rear tire tracks yet not stick out too far as to catch on things. I will not likely use this tractor for cutting grass,if that makes a difference. Will the ind1 tires fit on the my stock rims if I do decide to change???

KiotiJohn · Sep 26, 2004

Many people want a compromise between turfs and ags so they use the industrials. The R4 industrials are the same width generally as the turfs, but wider than the Ags.
Since you're asking after purchase, if you want to change, there shouldn't be a problem with your dealer switching them out for you before delivery, but the two tires won't go on the same rim.
Ind. tires are easier on turf than Ag tires, but many people report no significant problems using the Ag tires on turf if one is careful. When you need more traction, the Ags will be welcome.
Since you have only 5 posts, welcome to TBN. I hope this info is helpful. John

Truck9 · Sep 26, 2004

I will only be on grass just to get to the job at hand. Sounds like I should just stay with the ag1 tires and get the advantages of the best tire for poorest traction situation, should it arise. What about the implement choices??? was I correct in getting them just a little wider than the total rear width of the tractor??

NIXON · Sep 27, 2004

I went with R4"s . Only because they have a tougher carcass than R1"s .They do give up a bit on overall traction . But it wasn't a concern . If traction is the overiding concern ,R1's are the better bet .
As far as Your choices of implements .. Going wider than the foot print of your machine is the way to go . If you get a rear blade , make sure you take into consideration it's width when angled . John

daedong · Sep 27, 2004

On small tractors i personally would put turf tyres on.

Dargo · Sep 27, 2004

R4's have been great for me. No turf damage but yet not like slicks the way turf tires seem to be when they get just a little mud on them! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

NHRich · Sep 27, 2004

I went with R4"s . Only because they have a tougher carcass than R1"s .They do give up a bit on overall traction . But it wasn't a concern . If traction is the overiding concern ,R1's are the better bet .


That's what convinced me in the end to order R4s instead of R1s, even though I have almost no turf to worry about. I don't have that much muck, and I figure I have ice chains for winter work, but I will be in the woods a lot, and having a sidewall puncture way back there would definitely cause me problems. Time will tell whether that was a good decision or not.

--Richard

KiotiJohn · Sep 27, 2004

( What about the implement choices??? was I correct in getting them just a little wider than the total rear width of the tractor?? )
I sometimes think too much is made of having implements that cover the tire tracks, but most posters seem to follow this. As long as the implements you bought are specified for use with your tractor's requirments for lift etc., there's nothing wrong with having them just a bit wider. The problem comes when people use implements that require more PTO HP than their tractors are rated for, and implements that are just too large and heavy for the tractor frame. As long as you didn't exceed these, all should be fine. John

Nasty135 · Oct 4, 2004

Truck9, My experiences have been as follows, With turf tire traction on dry ground is very very good but if it spins and it will eventually it won't dig a hole in the ground, On wet ground they will walk softly..
An ag tire as well as the r-4 to a slightly lesser degree on dry ground will roll fine not causing a real problem unless trying to pull a stationary object (stump)or push the same something digging with loader in ground and tires spin, If your on grass you have just removed the turf and will be reseeding that spot and begin digging in ,If the ground is wet a tight turn pushes the grass away from the tractor /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif also when driving straight the r-4/Ag tire puts a lot of weight on the bar tread squashing the ground depending on how wet it is leaving tracks in that too and repeated trips will cause a mud pit to form ...
The turf tire in mud no good /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif even found that the r-4 tire will fill with mud eventually leaving less than desired traction which would leave the Ag tire the best for mud and loose dirt..
They all have there + & - which is what you have to decide will fit your use the best.. At best it will be a compromise! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif And of course this is MY opinion /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif