johnk
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- Kubota GST Grand L3130 w/ 723 loader, Ags
Sounds like a two stage clutch??
blackrat said:I am still learning the terminology of tractors and still have not figured out how to compare apples to apples and not to oranges....
What is a comparable Kubota model to the TC 30 and what are you guys opinions on the 2?
Thanks
Wade
johnk said:Sounds like a two stage clutch??
Larry_NFES said:Wade..I would recommend visiting New Holland's website, http://www.newholland.com and go to the products/compact tractors/ TC30 page. When you are on the page, at the top is a link called "product comparisons" that will allow you to compare the TC30 with all the other major players together in a spreadsheet type layout. I am a sales manager at a New Holland dealer in upstate NY and of course I have to say that you cant beat the TC30's power, versatility, and overall value for the price. Study the competition hard before making your buying decision. 0% for 36 months is currently available through the end of the month.
JC-jetro said:Corret with one exception. You can have PTO operation with transmission driven pto when You have gear shifter in neutral, clutch and engage the pto shifter and then let go of the clutch and PTO will trun with the tractor not in motion. Layshaft in transmission continues to turn with the clutch engaged weather in neutral or gear. PTO shaft is fed from the layshaft. Even with the old Ford 8N you can have PTO operation with the gears in neutral and tractor stationary and engine runing . When you depress the clutch all the way in either transmission driven, live (dual clutch) or independen (dedicated PTO clutch hydraulic or otherwise) is when you isolate the engine rotation with the rest of drive system.
bill6 said:Hi Blackrat; My opinion only, but features & price being anywhere close to equal, I would much rather have a tractor made in Japan (Kubota) than one made in S. Korea (N. H.) Although most Korean made goods have greatly improved during the past 5 years, there is nothing that matches Japanese manufacturing in terms of fit, quality control, automation, machining tolerances, and visual finish. Everything in the design, layout, & manufacturing process; the robotics, the facilities, the high-tech assembly & paint machines, the total committment to on-time parts supply, the loyalty of the workers (it's part of their culture) etc, THESE GUYS ARE GOOD!!
Keith_B said:This is not a universal truth. Many tractors with tranny PTO will not run with the tractor in neutral, and the clutch out. The WD45, Case 430 and many, many others are like that. In order to overcome this hurdle some manufacturers used a hand clutch, which basically moved a gear and disengaged the rear wheels to imitate live power. My late FIL's 430 Case has a tranny PTO. If the tractor is in neutral the PTO will not work. If the PTO is in a forward gear then the PTO will rotate normally, the higher the gear the faster it turns. If the tractor is in reverse the PTO will rotate the opposite direction (this is really handy if your PHD gets stuck in a root or rock). Stationary usage was made possible by a hand clutch that takes the rear wheels out of gear.
Bob_Skurka said:The L2800 is slightly lower HP than the TC30.
The L3400 is slightly more HP than the TC30.
Both of the "00" series machines would be reasonably comparable to other basic tractors like the TC30 or Deere 790/990 tractors.
Unless they changed things, the L2800 GEAR is not a tractor that I would ever choose because of its old style transmission/pto type. The L2800 HST is a different configuration as is the L3400 GEAR. There are differences that you cannot SEE or FEEL that should be taken into account.