What makes a good dealer? Examples?

   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #1  

danbuf

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Buff NY
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Kubota B3030, ford 860, & Deere 445
I am about to purchase a Kubota, probably B3030..
I have spoken with several dealers, and they all seem reasonable, and their prices are within $200-$300.
I see many posts saying look for the best dealer.

So what clues do I look for in a good dealer? What examples can you share?

Thanks for all the great information.. This is a tractor junkies paradise!

Dan
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #2  
Word of mouth from other people who have purchased and still use the dealer is probably the best. Sometimes a dealer before the sell can turn around and be a different dealer after the sell.
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #3  
Look at the place where the dealer operates. Clean, not junky, shop area reasonable, used equipment looks good (used equipment with flat tires doesn't look good to me), no weeds, personnel look tidy and interested in their job, dealer been around for awhile and looks to be there for awhile longer (for you, maybe). Looks like there is a lot of activity, or the same old, same old sitting there month after month?

Plus talk to customers, hang around the store area, and listen to customers that come in (and assume all won't be happy but in general, most should be if a good dealer).

Just a few of my thoughts.
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #4  
One thing to look for is a dealer who will try to sell you his machine without cutting down someone else's. If all he can tell you is how bad the others are shy away.

Solo
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #5  
<font color="blue"> So what clues do I look for in a good dealer? What examples can you share? </font>
When you're at the dealer;

Check out the service area. Is it clean? Are the mechanics working? Does it look professional? Or are people standing about drinking coffee and talking? Do the mechanics wear uniforms or are they dressed in jeans and T shirts? See any trucks and trailers owned by the dealer indicating they do pick up and delivery? How many of them are there? Big enough to handle your size tractor?

Check out the showroom/sales area. Clean and neat or a pig sty? Some manufacturers have dealer awards for sales and/or service. See any hanging on the wall? Are there empty desks in the sales area? If so, why are people leaving? Do they sell attachments? If so, are they major brand name attachments or no name ones? Some major brands have dealer requirements such as stocking a certain number of models and parts to fix them. If (fill in the blank of a major vendor) is willing to trust these guys, they are probably OK.

Does the place look busy? Not so busy that you're ignored, but busy enough to know that other people trust and like the place.

Walk around the outside. Is there used equipment for sale indicating recent trade ins? Is there a good selection of new tractors and attachments? Are some of the new tractors equipped with a FEL so you can see how they look and try them out? Do some of the tractors have attachments on the three point hitch so you can try them out as well? Is there a paved, grass and dirt area for you to test drive the tractor? Will they loan you a tractor to try out on your property?

Check out the Parts Department. Lots of shelves of parts behind the counter? If not, you may be waiting if you need one. Check the shelves on your side of the counter. Are there any? Bolts, nuts, paint, oil, pins, i.e., the odds and ends and consumables a tractor needs.

Does the dealer sell other things, e.g., Ag tractors or other large farming equipment, lawn and garden tractors, chain saws, string trimmers, things that indicate the dealer is a thriving business. This can also be a problem, i.e., the dealer is a jack of all trades and a master of none or that they concentrate on their large farmer customer base to the detriment of their other customers.

Does the dealer have separate departments for each line (Large Ag, Compact, Lawn and Garden) of equipment they sell and service with separate service trucks?

Check out their web site, assuming they have one. Professional looking or are the Copyright dates still 2003? Send them an email via their web site. Get a response?

Call them on the phone. Get a cheerful receptionist or Bubba back in the garage. Or do you descend into a phone system never to emerge? How many times does the phone ring? Do they have toll free numbers?

Do they take credit cards? Do they offer local bank financing?

None of these things are fool proof. Mechanics can wear uniforms and still be incompetent. People can be friendly and still give you a raw deal. Just some things to think about as you visit each dealer. All of these things help you form an overall opinion of the dealer and what kind of support he will provide.
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #6  
To add to mikes post.

Do drive bys on the dealer. If the same tractors are sitting there in the same places for months on end, there is a problem. If he is moving inventory, then he will stay in buisness. If he isnt then he is devoed to the saws and weedwackers and sells a tractor once in a while, avoid him.

I feel that the tractor, lawnmower, chainsaw, weedwacker, toy, hat, ATV dealer has to much going on, unless you walk into separate departments with different sales people. I buy saws from saw shops, and tractors from tractor dealers. I dont go grocery shopping at the Ford dealer.

Word of mouth is the biggest. If only 50% of customers are happy with dealer X, today might not be your day.
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #7  
As is the case with anything, sometimes looks can be deceiving.

Case in point. There is a dealer near the house. (Just happens to be a Kubota dealer, but this applies equally to ALL brands) Their showroom looks like a magazine cover! Spotless, well detailed, arrainged neatly. Their shop looks like a hospital operating room. You could eat off the floors. Parts counter is clean, orderly, and well staffed. They are part of a "chain" of stores, 6 in all. They move PLENTY of inventory.

I wouldn't buy a bucket of water from them if I was on fire.............................

Once you're out the door, they don't know you any more, unless you're back to buy another tractor. No one knows a thing about parts for their product lines they carry. And try to get them to got outside their normal way of doing business...(i.e. hurry-up order in an emergency) FORGET IT.

Another Kubota dealer in town looks like a bomb went off in the shop. And the repair shop doubles as the showroom. Salemen are also doing pre-delivery set-ups, loading and unloading trucks. You never get to order parts.....................'cause they're usually in stock! (on common parts anyway)

I'm about to buy a used Kubota. I know what dealer I'm headed to.

The one where everyone is WORKING HARD TO MAKE CUSTOMERS HAPPY.

My advice? Find a few customers in the area (that have same brand you're wanting to buy) and ask them who's the "Mac Daddy".

In most cases, you'll hear the down side to the bad dealers, long before you hear the up side to the good ones. Some times, no news is good news!
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #8  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( What examples can you share? )</font>

Bought a Kubota 2 yrs ago from the only dealer around in about a 60 mile radius. Good oportunity for a "Take it or leave it" attitude. Not so. Two important things they did on my deal, in addition to a competitive price and free delivery:

1) Told me about a used tractor dealer who pays top dollar, I arranged the deal on my "trade-in" with the used dealer, and my new dealer ran the trade-in transaction thru his shop to save me $600 in sales tax, all perfectly legal and at no profit to my new dealer.

2) When the Kubota top and tilt option proved a dissapointment, my dealer took it back at full price, eating his own labor for installing it.

John
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #9  
when i started shopping, i emailed local dealer (kubota) for info. no response. called and put on hold for salesman, no answer. drove over to location. it's a rental center and only thing they had in stock was bx23 and l3400. both models appeared to be what they were renting. i wondered if all the parts they stocked fit these 2 models. i didn't get that warm fuzzy so i went to the next two closest (30 and 70 miles) dealers. both professional looking and run tractor dealerships. i would have been happy doing business at either and ended up buying (b3030) from furtherest dealer. distance wasn't a problem for me and was over 1K better deal. who knows i may have got the best deal locally but i doubt it and i don't think they were interested in selling me a tractor. maybe different if i wanted to rent or buy a rental unit.
 
   / What makes a good dealer? Examples? #10  
Ask them what they think of TBN?

One of my dealers follows this board. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

-Mike Z. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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