What should I do?

[bluechip]

From a dealers perspective, I can certainly see how a situation like this can happen. Often, what we call rebates are really "DSAs" which is dealer settlement allowance for programs designed to move certain models by making them more competitive. This particular rebate can be handled by the dealer either way, cash to customer or cash to dealer. It is common when asked for a price, we quote a "cash price" meaning all rebates and allowances are in. It can get confusing. At our place we always show those discounts on the invoice even though in some cases it is a dealer settlement allowance and not a true rebate. Believe me selling tractors is just about as frusrtrating as buying them! Glad this worked out and both sides ended up with what they originally negotiated.

 

[I have no memory]

That makes sense.

Can I ask what price you got. The "pre-season" price I got for a U5030 was close to $30,000 and isn't much less than a comparable Kubota. The initial price I got from Kubota and LS for a P70XX series was within $100 of each other. I don't know where I'm going with this but even though I like LS if the price is that close I have to go with orange just for dealer support. I have one LS dealer within about 150 miles and I have four Kubota dealers within 45.

 

[Putter]

I'm going to sign it and let them recover rebate. They were clearly embarrassed about having to call and explain. My sales receipt looks like I bought a bag of feed from the feed store too. LOL. I guess that how they do tractors, I like getting into rural America, its cool. Anyway I'm happy and will put up pictures when it's delivered on the 30th.

Glad it worked out.
Sounds like from your previous posts you got a deal.
Enjoy your new tractor, I am jealous.

 

[houstonscott]

The price of the U5030 was under 30K and included a HD mower and HD box. If you think you can get an Kubota M6040 with two implements included and same options I think your way off. Really I don't think you can get a M6040 for less than about 38K. Now there are Kubota's that cost 29K or less but lets compare apples to apples, 57PH, 4600lbs, 3.33L of engine, FEL 2900lbs, 16speed transmission. Now if you don't think 10K is not much more than I maybe wrong. Go look.....Tell you the truth I don't think you could get a Kubota M6040 without a FEL for under 30K.

HS

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

Glad it worked out.
Sounds like from your previous posts you got a deal.
Enjoy your new tractor, I am jealous.

Yeah, I'm jealous too. Tractor envy I guess -- seems like everyone's LS is bigger than mine.:laughing: I used to think, "at least mine's paid off...", but now lots of people are buying them with cash. Well I may have them beat on the number of implements and attachments for a while. (That's "cold comfort" I suppose, but better than nothing!)

 

[houstonscott]

Yeah, implements are were it's at. Once the tractor is selected and fitted to property and job its about implements. Tell you the truth not sure all the money people pay to get a FEL is money well spent in every situation. I know I will be attacked for that statement. Tillers, rototillers, bedders, seeders, post hold diggers, small balers, cutter swathers all are on the hit list.

HS

 

[LittleBlueTractor]

Tell you the truth not sure all the money people pay to get a FEL is money well spent in every situation. I know I will be attacked for that statement.

Nah, I'm sure there are some out there with FELs that later discovered they really didn't need that particular feature. But a FEL is great to have if you really DO need it.

 

[2manyrocks]

If the guy was trying to shaft you out of two grand he probably would not have sent you a form to tip you off. He could probably muster a reasonable copy of your John Hancock if he was dishonest. .

If A signs B's name to a rebate without permission and mails it in to obtain money, that could be federal mail fraud. If it ever came to light with the manufacturer, they could probably terminate the dealership.

Probably a good sign that this dealer asked for your signature even though the whole thing looks a little awkward.

 

[I have no memory]

The Kubota priced on their online build program to match the U5030 is almost $2,000 less that $38,000. The dealer will be below that list price.

If you compare apples to apples down to the nuts and bolts LS is going to come out ahead. My guess is it's probably around $1,500 less in price too at least for the U5030. They are nice tractors. I'm just saying if you want to, in all reality, burst onto the US market and get. into the top five in sales you need to beat the competition by alot. If you factor in resale and dealer network, (at least in my area), $1,500 doesn't come close to blowing the doors off your competition.

I like the LS tractor. I like that their a small line. I even REALLY like that their dealers are, for the most part, small family owned one off stores. If things work out I may end up with 2-3 LS tractors. But, they don't make the decision easy beacase, for 2 of the 3 models I'm looking at, they do not blow the doors off the competition and is the small margin of positive worth the potential risk?

 

[houstonscott]

"the Kubota" is well over 38k, and no dealer is going to discount it 9K, not counting your missing 4 gears in transmission, 400lbs off FEL. The difference in price is thousands not hundreds like your first post. I'll let it go at that, maybe I opened your eyes a bit, the other CUT's maybe closer to other brands but the U5030 stands alone by thousands against any other comparable tractors apples to apples. Remember it's a class II utility tractor not a compact.

HS