What teams will play in the next Superbowl?

[Sigarms]

I know that sounds virtuous and easy to agree with, but the reality is the refs make calls that change outcomes of games and they have many, many times.
I was at the an Eagles home loss to the Commanders just this year when Dallas Goedert was pulled down by the face mask so hard onto his shoulder, he bruised it and fumbled the ball. It was an easy scoop & score for the Commanders and helped them win the game. No face mask call.

Goedert was out for several weeks with a shoulder contusion on the facemask tackle with NO call made by the refs. We lost arguably one of our best players for several weeks.

On the replay, the ref stood and watched the entire play in front of him.

I contend refs blow calls that change game outcomes AND also make non-calls that change game outcomes. NFL refs also favor certain players over others (Tom Brady got more sissy calls than all other QBs in football combined).

When a 9-0 team plays a 4-5 team (think the records were around then) and the 9-0 team loses by double digits, something tells me that one play didn't make or break the game. Did't see the game being in NC, but from what I read, the Eagles might have been looking past the game before it was played.

Do refs miss calls? Yes, all the time. Do refs make some calls that are overturned by instant replay? Yes. You have professional athletes going about 100 miles an hour where things can happen in a blink of an eye. Sorry, but the refs are human and do make mistakes, I get it. I don't however whine about calls that don't go "my teams way". Refs are only human.

Have you ever refereed or umpired any types of game yourself in any capacity? It's a thankless job and no matter what kind of call you make people are pissed at you for making the call. Worst job I ever had in the 80's was getting paid by the college I attended was to ref flag football games. I stuck it out for one semester, but went to the provost's office to work after that because it was a thankless job not worth the hassle and aggravation of actually trying to do a good job.

 

[Hay Dude]

When a 9-0 team plays a 4-5 team (think the records were around then) and the 9-0 team loses by double digits, something tells me that one play didn't make or break the game. Did't see the game being in NC, but from what I read, the Eagles might have been looking past the game before it was played.

Do refs miss calls? Yes, all the time. Do refs make some calls that are overturned by instant replay? Yes. You have professional athletes going about 100 miles an hour where things can happen in a blink of an eye. Sorry, but the refs are human and do make mistakes, I get it. I don't however whine about calls that don't go "my teams way". Refs are only human.

Have you ever refereed or umpired any types of game yourself in any capacity? It's a thankless job and no matter what kind of call you make people are pissed at you for making the call. Worst job I ever had in the 80's was getting paid by the college I attended was to ref flag football games. I stuck it out for one semester, but went to the provost's office to work after that because it was a thankless job not worth the hassle and aggravation of actually trying to do a good job.

Yes and was also a high school coach for football and lacrosse for many years paid and unpaid.
Being a ref might be a thankless job, but they decided to take the job and they are getting paid very well for it. The least they could do is ref the game properly and stop deciding game outcomes.

I am not one who thinks making a bad call or missing an obvious call is “whining”. It’s NOT. It’s pointing out poor judgement, favoritism or incompetence. I see nothing wrong with highlighting that.
And BTW, I didn’t only point out calls that went against MY team. I pointed out calls that went against other teams like the Bengals and the Saints.

 

[ovrszd]

When a Ref throws a flag, and the offending player says yeah I did that, is the Ref still wrong???

 

[oldballs]

I'll be watching the Chiefs parade on the TV. I don't expect the fans to riot or set the town on fire. It will be chilly today, but no rain like yesterday and no snow like tomorrow. No school for the kids today. Hum-m-m.

Chees,
Mike

 

[/pine]

Whining is whining...no two ways about it...a sore loser is a sore loser...the world is full of both...always looking for someone else to blame...!

 

[ovrszd]

I'll be watching the Chiefs parade on the TV. I don't expect the fans to riot or set the town on fire. It will be chilly today, but no rain like yesterday and no snow like tomorrow. No school for the kids today. Hum-m-m.

Chees,
Mike

Mike,

I called my Dentist office this morning in Bethany to schedule an appointment for a cleaning. I first called at 0830, no answer. I called again at 0900, no answer. I'm guessing they closed for the day so employees could attend the parade!!!!

One of my weather apps says 2-6" of snow tonight/tomorrow. One says 5-9". I'm hoping for 2" or less.

 

[oldballs]

Due to my medical conditions I never got the chains or the back blade on the Kubota......

So far, there wasn't enough snow to need 'em anyway. ,,,my next favorite team is the GREENBAY PACKERS

Cheers to Richard & All TBN'ers ....Gotta go now to my Lady friend house for the KC Chiefs TV Parade.

Mike

 

[Sigarms]

Yes and was also a high school coach for football and lacrosse for many years paid and unpaid.
Being a ref might be a thankless job, but they decided to take the job and they are getting paid very well for it. The least they could do is ref the game properly and stop deciding game outcomes.

So, when you were a ref (paid or unpaid), you made all the right calls and everyone was happy with what you called and didn't call as a ref?

Do I think referees try to determine the outcome of a game? No. Do I think referees make mistakes that can determine the outcome of a game? Of course they do.

 

[/pine]

How many NFL officials do you think make wrong calls because they have big bets on the outcome that they can retire and not care anymore about their careers???
Career pro sport officials only have their reputation (just like the athletes)...
SB officials are the most vetted of any group except maybe the World Cup...

If you look at the facts...more coaches and players have been accused and found to be guilty of cheating etc., etc.* than officials in any pro sport...X10

* this includes putting bounties on causing injuries to opposing players...!

 

[Hay Dude]

So, when you were a ref (paid or unpaid), you made all the right calls and everyone was happy with what you called and didn't call as a ref?

Do I think referees try to determine the outcome of a game? No. Do I think referees make mistakes that can determine the outcome of a game? Of course they do.

Well then you might want to read this and reassess your thinking. Because it already happened.

From the archives: How former ref Tim Donaghy conspired to fix NBA games

On the anniversary of Tim Donaghy's resignation from the NBA, ESPN revisits how the disgraced referee conspired to fix NBA games, whom he did it with and the untold millions that flowed from the conspiracy.

www.espn.com

 

[Hay Dude]

Further reading

Eight Sports Conspiracies That Prove Professional Sports Are Fixed

The five major professional sports leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL, and NASCAR) and their commissioners always tell their fans that "all is well" even when that isn't the truth...

bleacherreport.com

https://www.thesportster.com/entertainment/13-games-that-were-definitely-rigged/

 

[Hay Dude]

Scroll down on this link and watch the play.
If you were a ref, in this situation, would you call holding? I know I wouldn’t.

Tugging lightly on a receivers jersey and also SEEING THE PASS WAS UNCATCHABLE should not change the outcome of a game.

NFL fans react to the brutal holding call that decided Super Bowl LVII

Patrick Mahomes and Jalen Hurts delivered a Super Bowl thriller for the ages, but a controversial holding call in the final minutes robbed fans of a do-or-die final drive and led to an anticlimactic chip shot field goal for the Chiefs to win a second championship in the…

touchdownwire.usatoday.com

2 BACK TO BACK SUPER BOWLS DECIDED ON VERY SUSPECT LAST MINUTE HOLDING CALLS.

 

[/pine]

The call did not change the outcome...it kept the eagles from having more than 8 seconds after the FG...
Quit being such a sore loser and a whining cry baby...geeze...!

 

[Hay Dude]

The call did not change the outcome...it kept the eagles from having more than 8 seconds after the FG...
Quit being such a sore loser and a whining cry baby...geeze...!

As usual, you miss the whole point because you’re mad Philly made it further than your 2 teams Atlanta & Tampa and your boy Tom Brady is sitting at home.

I really don’t care the Eagles lost.

My point is lousy calls being made on last minute plays to decide games and that’s it. I was just as p’od when the Bengals got screwed last year.

Chill with the gaslighting already Piney.

 

[/pine]

As usual, you miss the whole point I’m making because you are more interested in a personal battle because you’re mad Philly made it further than your 2 teams Atlanta & Tampa and your boy Tom Brady is sitting at home.

I really don’t care the Eagles lost.

My point is lousy calls being made on last minute plays to decide games and that’s it. I was just as p’od when the Bengals got screwed last year.

Chill with the gaslighting already.

You're being a whiny cry baby...enough already...
FYI...go back in this thread and you will see a post I made well before the game...it stated: "The closer the game is...the more of an impact the officials will have" (may not be the exact wording but it's there...go look)
It's ALWAYS the case...!!

 

[Hay Dude]

You're being a whiny cry baby...enough already...
FYI...go back in this thread and you will see a post I made well before the game...it stated: "The closer the game is...the more of an impact the officials will have" (may not be the exact wording but it's there...go look)
It's ALWAYS the case...!!

OMG, Who doesn’t know that?

 

[/pine]

OMG, Who doesn’t know that?

You obviously...LoL
You keep whining about a good call that caused your team to lose...get over it already...geeze...!
The key to avoiding questionable calls is DON'T MAKE QUESTIONABLE PENALTIES AT QUESTIONABLE TIMES...!!!

 

[Hay Dude]

Well, it’s all history now. Time to move on with millions more people having less faith in NFL officiating. Hey there’s plenty of controversy out there in the NFL other than obvious poor ref calls.

How about this one?

Deflategate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Next years Super Bowl?

AFC: Chiefs/Bengals versus? …..NFC: not Atlanta or T.B.

 

[/pine]

Well, it’s all history now. Time to move on with millions more people having less faith in NFL officiating. Hey there’s plenty of controversy out there in the NFL other than obvious poor ref calls.

How about this one?

Deflategate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Next years Super Bowl?

AFC: Chiefs/Bengals versus? …..NFC: not Atlanta or T.B.

Are there really that many eagle fans...?...that's too bad...!

 

[ovrszd]

How many NFL officials do you think make wrong calls because they have big bets on the outcome that they can retire and not care anymore about their careers???
Career pro sport officials only have their reputation (just like the athletes)...
SB officials are the most vetted of any group except maybe the World Cup...

If you look at the facts...more coaches and players have been accused and found to be guilty of cheating etc., etc.* than officials in any pro sport...X10

* this includes putting bounties on causing injuries to opposing players...!

Now we are going down a dark conspiracy path. I'll play.

If a Ref makes a bad call to further his financial position, and that call costs the actual big money people money, he'll never be heard from again. Deep well somewhere.

How's that for a theory?