What to do 4120 or 110TLB

[Chris2520]

The 110 TBL is a comercial machine. look at the specs.
i dont think a 4120 has no where near the hydraulic power
the 110 has. the lift capasity is greater. and the hoe is almost twice
as strong according to the numbers. and its much more durable.
then again. it costs more too....

Chris....

 

[MACDABS]

From what I can tell and from talking to the sales people, the 110 is a mini 310 construction grade machine . The rear pto and threepoint hitch capability is the only thing that is similiar to the Deere Ag tractor line.

One thing I am finding is any optional Hydraulic outlets need to be orderd with the machine and can not be added in the field. This is making it tough for me to find a dealer with the rear outlet valves if I wish to add a top tilt cylinder for a box blade. Most of the dealers order machines with only the front aux valves on the loader for grapples , brooms, Plows and other skid steer attachments. Also the rear valves on the hoe for a breaker or augar is another option that many dealers do not order on a in stock machine.

It is looking like I will have to order a machine to get the options I want unless I purchase the one my dealer has without the rear outlet valves. I hate to do that , I only used my rear outlet valve once on my 4310 ,but I think it is a necessary option I should not leave out.

I am open for comments is a top tilt hydraulics the cats meow?


Macdabs

 

[wolc123]

Simple question, Does the 110 have a Yanmar or JD powertech engine? I prefer the JD powertech. To me this would tip the scales to the 4120 . Did anyone actually look up the hydraulic capacities or just assume the 110 has more. Just because it costs more does not mean it is better in all categories.

 

[MACDABS]

I do not know , I will ask the dealer tomorrow, I think the loader spec is 2700lbs vs the 400x is 2300 lbs . I know the machine weighs in at 7600lbs and the 4120 with 448, and loader is in the 6000 lb range. I like the 4120 and the fact it fits in my garage attached to my house with the folding ROPS, but the 110TLB I think we be better for heavy use and the availability to rent various skid steer attachments is a big plus for me .

 

[whoodle]

I have had a 110 for about 5 years. I got everything for it. All hydraulics, r-4s, thumb, skidplates, 4n1, light materials bucket, 24, 12, 36, pallet forks, woods 8' rake with single tail wheel, topntilt, 84 inch rear snowblower, and boss V-plow for skidsteer. I also have the adapter for the breaker on the hoe, but I have never used a breaker front or rear with this machine. I have about 800 hrs during which I have used it to do things that the engineers would never have dreamt of. I have also put the l-48 and 39 as well as the 45 hp Powertrac through their paces. The l-39 was not out when I got mine, but I got jealous so I went to give it a whipping. I left with no regrets. I believe my tractor is about 10000 lbs without loading the wheels. The skid plate is a beast and the thumb and 4n1 tip the scales. I do all the maintenance and fixing when necessary. I have moved thousands of yards of everything from compost to multithousand pound boulders and 60 foot tall maple trees. I you really are trying to get work done, I believe the 110 is unmatched in the one against two tussle with the excavator/skidsteer duo.
A few days ago I was on a site where the homeowner had left about 8 yards of by then saturated compost in our way. I didn't have the 110, but there was a green deere with 25 hrs on it and the keys. It may have been a 4120 with a small hoe. Anyhow, I jumped on and used the hoe to gently move the pile aside. Nice machine, but the 15 minute operation probably took me 10 minutes longer than on the 110. The beauty of the beast is the creep to reposition on the hoe. This one feature makes up for any weakness of build quality or the additional loader strength of the l-48. It also is the clincher in the aforementioned tussle. If you send me a pm, I would be glad to chat with you.

 

[Brimstone10x]

The 110 tlb has a yanmar engine . (proven over seveal decades) And has three hyd pumps. the 4000 twentys only have two pumps. And a new ,(suspect)deere engine.

 

[Rara Avis]

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[ChrisNJ]

Macdads, I'm in the same boat as you. I have a 4310 w/300+ hours on it. Use it on my gentlemans 60acre farm. it has been a great machine, and my first machine, yet i have a need to dig things that the 4310 can't do as I have no 48 backhoe, and not sure i want it. i rented one with the 48 and it couldn't do much i expected of it. my neighbor wants to split a 80-120 series used excavator which sound like a good idea, then i'll keep the 4310. but the 110 tlb is very attractive to me. if i were to go for the 110 i would buy it with all options. staying on-the-fence for now.

 

[MACDABS]

Chris,
I think no matter what machine you pick , you can never feel all your needs.
Before I purchased my 4310 I was using a Mustang skid steer to move dirt that belonged to a friend of mine , and almost purchased a skid steer except he told me to look at a tractor for what I do. He was right and the skid steer would have never worked with the box blade or my rear chipper. I have been waiting for a dealer to get a 110 TLB in for another customer, I am probably going to place the order with the rear hydraulics and front for attachments , but no hydraulics on the dipperstic. My 48 hoe and 4310 machine would be fine if the loader could lift 2000 lbs. The only complaint I have with the hoe portion is the speed on the curl . I use the 48 for work and the loader more at home for projects, I have a project at work to lift 2100lb skids in the woods, should help pay for the trade up.

Macdabs

 

[mike69440]

The weight of the 110 is important.
I have an L39 that is weighted up to about 8300 Lbs, which is about right for the machines cababilities. Unweighted, the machine just bounced around and the hydraulic pressures were not to full spec. I'd load up a 110 to +9000 LBS.