What to do with leaking hillside?

   / What to do with leaking hillside? #11  
That last photo was really helpful. Your plan of turning a libality into an asset is sounding better and better. Hopefully you have a way of getting rid of the water coming down the hill in a torential rain. If anything else has been in that tank, you might consider having it tested so it won't contaminate your garden.
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   / What to do with leaking hillside? #12  
You people need to remember when you dig these big holes , you are dealing with MN. She will find a path for thiswater . You are creating a negetive pressure area and here comes the water . You need to arrange good surface drainage .

I agree with this. Pics can be deceiving, but I would want more clearance between the leaker and the house, plus some decent slope away from the house. It looks fairly flat from house to dirt bank.

Also, the slope of the bank/hillside itself is not maintainable, it is too steep IMO.

I would be very tempted to take A LOT of soil out of the hillside and go deeper as it is dug into. Somebody stole all your rocks and your trees are missing too. :laughing: Digging doesn't get any easier than that.
 
   / What to do with leaking hillside?
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I am leaning towards doing a combination of a french drain and the sump pit/pump idea now. I think I will start a french drain up on the North side of the house where the propane line is laying on the ground in that pic.. Run it all the way down that hill, around the back by the main hill, and out the south side of the house, down the swale we have built.

On the top of the hill, we have a swale already, so the only "runoff" is water that lands on the hill its self during a downpour.

The wet area near the foot of the hill, is over 2' down from the rear of the house, and 70' away. It has never gotten close to the house, and good drainage is all around the house everywhere else. The big puddles are due to not having gutters installed yet, and it pooling by the house.

Few more pics from today to help visualize. How should I go about constructing the french drain? Do you bring the gravel to grade, or cover it with black paper and then grass it?

While it is steep, I can drive the Scag mower on the hill, up and down, not left to right...
 

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   / What to do with leaking hillside? #14  
Ever thought of burying the tank where the water will naturally flow into it and using a windmill as a pump to your garden?
 
   / What to do with leaking hillside? #15  
The french drain will not catch run-off from a downpour, but it should intercept most of the oozing water. You will need to maintain a surface swale to handle the hard rains.

Given the fine nature of your soil, I would dig the trench for the drain, then lay in a good quality filter fabric--down into the downhill side of the trench, across the bottom, and up the high side with enough left over to fold over the top of the filled trench. That would be step #1. Then put in your washed stone, drain pipe with a sock, more washed stone--up to about 8" below the surface is what I am thinking.
 
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If I brought the french drain to grade, and on the top dressed it with some river rock stones, would that help with runoff probably? If nothing else it would look good - something like this?
 

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   / What to do with leaking hillside? #17  
What is the story with the two plastic pipe ends sticking up in the ditch?
 
   / What to do with leaking hillside? #18  
If I brought the french drain to grade, and on the top dressed it with some river rock stones, would that help with runoff probably? If nothing else it would look good - something like this?

It does look nice. I'm not sure how you would keep the dirt/sediment from collecting in the rocks over time without some really effective erosion control plantings. It could be a mower barrier too.
 
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What is the story with the two plastic pipe ends sticking up in the ditch?

Those are the pipes that run over to where the gutters are. Once I have the final grade in the area established I will cut them to the proper height and install a cap on them.
 
   / What to do with leaking hillside? #20  
Oh the roof drains. Very good. It looks like you have sliced into a aquafer at a point below it's recharge area. It will be a tough job convinceing that water to stay underground and out of your way. Perhaps install a toe drain as was suggested and regrade the slope with a wick layer of clean sand to collect and lead the water to the drain. The sand can be covered with topsoil and grassed over to hold the slope from eroding. The roof drains can be extended along with the toe drain out a little further and outletted into a small pond between where the pipes are now and those small trees. What you do with the water once in the pond is up to you.
Or you could build a self watering rock garden on that slope and have a stone lined toe ditch to carry any eccess off to the outlet/pond.
 

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