What to do?

TWINKLE_TOES · Dec 3, 2000

What do you guy's and gal's do with your waste?

I seem to be accumulating waste crankcase oil and Hydraulic fluid at an alarming rate. My method to date has been dump in a fifty gallon barrel and wait unitil it fills up. This has worked fine for my gas powered stuff( two trucks, one car and a Farmall A) but with the addition of the Orange machine @ 9.5 gallons of waste for total service, this approach falls short.

My dealer will take it back @ 10% of the initial cost. Other places around here will take it free but only in small quantities (single vehicle oil change) and only if not mixed and in the original container (no crankcase oil in a kerosene bucket etc.) They will not take for free, quantities that they believe reflect commercial waste.

Al

Rowski · Dec 3, 2000

You might try to find someone with a waste oil furnace. With the high price of heating fuel it should be fairly easy to get ride of providing you can fins someone with a waste oil furnace. One thing if you give it to someone for waste oil furnace, besure there is NO water or antifreeze in it. If you store the barrel outside even with the barrel sealed put a piece of plywood over it to keep the water out. Once you find some that takes your waste oil for heating fuel and you keep it clean they will keep taking it. Give them bad one and thet won't.

I have a waste oil furnace. You could bring it to me if you like /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif.

Derek

Thomas · Dec 3, 2000

Al,
Up here one day out of the month our landfill has a company come to pick up all waste oil at no charge,but each person limit to 5 gallons.
Maybe your local town or city can help.

What we do keep a 55 gallon drum about half full of used oil,than place the new fence post into soak for a while,than after month or so let them hang to drip dry.

Lot of people who spray under coating on vehicle always looking for used oil.

Up here in the pucker brush they still use oil on dirt roads.

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

TWINKLE_TOES · Dec 3, 2000

Thomas,

"Pucker Brush"/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Thats funny, I have never heard that one. What the heck could it possibly be, blackberry?

Thanks for the feedback.

Al

TWINKLE_TOES · Dec 3, 2000

Derek,

The waste oil furnace sounds great/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif. How does that work work? How do I get one/build one. What does it cost?

I'll Fax you some of my oil. Whats the number?

Thanks Al

Rowski · Dec 3, 2000

http://www.wasteoilfurnace.com/main.htm

Try searching the net with waste oil furnace. Clean Burn seems to be popular in the north east. I have a Shenandoah. Its about 13 years old. Waste oil furnaces are a little higher maintance than a normal furnace. What is nice is if you run out of oil you can burn kero, diesel, or home heating oil.

Maybe instead of faxing we could try E-mail with the oil as an attachment.

Derek

Thomas · Dec 3, 2000

Al,
Around these parts pucker brush is consider thicker than thick brush,and when you try and walk thru the brush /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gifyou kinda make funny faces./w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Any type of berry brush with thorn apples also bird ox..etc..

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

TomG · Dec 4, 2000

We had over 400 gallons left by the previous owner of our camp. I can't remember if the cost was $0.08/liter CAN or $0.11 to have it pumped. However, samples had to be tested, and the test cost several hundred. If you want to arrange an entirely legal deal, ask your garage which company hauls their waste oil and contact them. Most companies would rather not do residential work, but some will for a price.

Waste oil companies and garages, which are their customers, are very reluctant to take waste oil from unknown sources. The main reason is that PCB contaminated oil is almost impossible to get rid of. Waste oil companies don't test oil from every pickup. So, if they come up with a PCB contaminated tank, it's very expensive for them, and it's also almost impossible to determine where it came from. The fines and penalties for violations are huge, and their licenses are forfeit.

After we had our waste oil pumped, we found out that our property insurance wouldn't have covered losses due to the oil. Lord, we had 250 gallons sitting in a rusty furnace oil tank and a flock of 55 gallon drums sitting in the bush virtually on our neighbour's property. I'd hate to think what an environmental clean up would have cost.

I'd say that cutting the best deal you can with a local garage is as good as it going to get. They're actually doing you a favour. Some municipalities have toxic waste disposal centres that take small quantities. However, the PCB problem scares the crap out of everybody, and if you let the volume of waste oil get out of hand, then there's no way to get rid of it except the way we did. An alternative is to buy a waste oil furnace, or know somebody who has one. However, that doesn't actually make the problem go away, and waste oil furnaces really don't burn some waste oil very well.

TomG · Dec 4, 2000

I think I remember hearing $7,000, probably U.S, for a waste oil furnace. My garage owner told me that he doesn't have one. Initial costs plus maintenance are high, and the payback time becomes too long. Of course, that was before heating oil prices went up. He also said that having a furnace would mean that he'd have to separate oil from anti-freeze, brake fluid and other garage stuff the furnaces don't like. And, then he'd have disposal problems with the separated stuff. Guess the idea just didn't work for him