What tractor has this combination of features?

   / What tractor has this combination of features? #11  
My BH and thumb pulls trees and limbs out of the woods, stacks the piles, grabs and holds it for firewood- its my grapple on my backhoe!

Yes, understood, if you don't want the BH, and you can likely find a cab tractor 35-40 HP used - I'd stay tuned into TBN members that are upgrading their machines.

I see a number of guys upgrading their tractors and either selling or trading them in. Doesn't seem you need to do this tomorrow, so wait and get the "right one" for you.
 
   / What tractor has this combination of features? #12  
I would consider the Massey Ferguson 1800M series. It has mid PTO options, has a slow/Soft start PTO, and bery capable lifting capacity.
 
   / What tractor has this combination of features? #13  
If your doing a lot of log work ? I've seen one of these in action and they are perfect . Sell one tractor and find one of these ...
 
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My BH and thumb pulls trees and limbs out of the woods, stacks the piles, grabs and holds it for firewood- its my grapple on my backhoe!

Yes, understood, if you don't want the BH, and you can likely find a cab tractor 35-40 HP used - I'd stay tuned into TBN members that are upgrading their machines.

I see a number of guys upgrading their tractors and either selling or trading them in. Doesn't seem you need to do this tomorrow, so wait and get the "right one" for you.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to own a backhoe of my own and I could surely find uses, but I have zero legitimate need when there's a monster case half a mile down the road with the keys in it.

I've certainly been prowling the classifieds, but it makes it so much easier when you're looking for 2 or 3 specific models vs having to google up the specs of every 35-50hp unit that comes up for sale.

Absolutely, this isn't something I'm looking to do tomorrow. Just trying to form a plan of what to look for :).
I would consider the Massey Ferguson 1800M series. It has mid PTO options, has a slow/Soft start PTO, and bery capable lifting capacity.
Like most other tractor companies it seems, their website is miserable for easy to find facts. But the specs of the 1840M do look very quite impressive once actually found here. It does have a DPF and low mounted fuel tank though. But if all the other features make it worthwhile, those can certainly be dealt with. I called the nearest dealer and left a message with a salesman to discuss features/specs.
If your doing a lot of log work ? I've seen one of these in action and they are perfect . Sell one tractor and find one of these ...
As handy as one of those would be, more PTO hp to run the chipper and snowblower are other main considerations of upgrading if I'm going to go through the hassle of selling/buying. Even after adding a turbo to the 1620 and turning up fuel to 1200F egt's at full load, it's just barely adequate on HP for the chipper and snow blowing.



I stopped today at the local TYM and Mahindra dealers. They had a few t474hst cab on hand to look at. The 48hp and 2200lb loader lift certainly are attractive in this size frame.

The mahindra dealer had both a 1640HST cab and a 2638 HST cab on hand. If the 1640 had the same beefy front axle as the 2638, it would be nearly perfect with having a clutch pedal PTO engagement, factory mid pto driven front blower, much better guarded FEL hydraulic quick connects, and lots of useful features. But that front axle assembly is cute vs the tym's/2638. The 2638 is absolutely the same unit as the TYM 394/474 (minus the engine) and the tie rod ends are cute and very exposed. I suppose all the axle beef in the world doesn't do much if you break a tie rod out in the field!


Researching around more, the Massey 1740M looks very attractive with a direct injection turbo 3 cylinder and no DPF. Going to try and find a used one to take a look at.
 
   / What tractor has this combination of features? #15  
Well we loved our old New Holland so much I bought a new one. Workmaster 40. Comes with a mid-pto. Mechanical hydro. 40 horses. Standard rear remotes. Nice stabilizers on the 3-point. Great loader capacity. Overall just a lot more tractor for the $$$, and I shopped every brand.
 
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After more YouTube videos than I can count, reading around here until I went cross-eyed, visiting dealers, reading around on different brand FB groups, I made a final decision on a 2019 MF 1740M cab tractor with a Hydro trans. I found a clean used one with 730 hours on consignment at a equipment yard from a bank repo and was able to negotiate a deal for $8-9k under average market value. Since no one unit had all the features I ideally wanted, the massey had best compromise of features I felt.

I called my nearest MF dealer today to order the mid pto and front blower setup so that just maybe I'll see them for next winter. I'll be shocked if it shows up before December haha.


I'm not a huge fan of the ehydro operation of the trans, but I talked to 6 different dealers and not a single one ever had a tractor come in with electronic Hydro control issues. I couldn't find a single direct ehydro issue on the 1700/1800 series on the net either. So that seems to be a non issue and hopefully stays that way. I looked hard at another used 1740m that was a power shuttle trans, but I think that would make unloading logs substantially trickier than a hydro trans long term.

While the pto is electronically engaged, it does have a soft start mode which I didn't find on any other brand. It seems to be significantly more gentle then many YouTube videos of other brand's electronic pto engagements. The pto button on the rear fender will also be appreciated when running the forestry winch.

The turbo direct injection engine with common rail fueling and no dpf is a huge plus in my book. I'll be very curious to see how much different it performs running my pto chipper this spring vs my turbo 1620.


Only downside is the tractor is near Oklahoma city and I'm in northern Michigan haha. I have to deliver a customer car to Houston in late April, so on the way back I'll grab the tractor and bring it home! That should give me time to clean up my new hollands and get them listed/sold.

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   / What tractor has this combination of features? #17  
Looks like a nice machine. The way things seem now you should have no problem selling.
 
   / What tractor has this combination of features? #18  
What's the weight of one of those pallets of logs?
 
   / What tractor has this combination of features? #19  
I think you’ll be very happy with that setup. I have the 1735m it is a great machine.
 
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What's the weight of one of those pallets of logs?
No idea what a bunk of logs weighs, easily 5k or more. I load/unload them grabbing as many logs at a time as I can. I was using forks, but I'm building a grapple right now.

I think you’ll be very happy with that setup. I have the 1735m it is a great machine.
I hope I will be! I stopped at the dealer in OK on my way to california for family vacation and actually put eyes on it last week. It is very clean overall, interior is just dusty. Looks like it was mainly used for mowing as the loader joystick handle looks brand new for the 735 hours on it.
 

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