What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron?

   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #51  
Lean on it enough to keep a curl of metal coming off the bit. Too little pressure is as bad as too much.

as others have said correct speed, pressure and cutting fluid/oil all count towards success.

Masonry drill bits would require sharpening to the correct cutting angle before they will cut steel, I've used them occasional for difficult jobs on welded stainless that has toughened during fabrication.

Punch the hole locations first with a center punch so the drill doesn't wander.

tallyho8, Drilling a pilot hole for a 1/4 bit is a verry special case and only applicable to get around problems with hard material. And [bummer] the small pilot hole itself would be difficult to accomplish reliably. IF your angle is just regular steel it should be possible to drill reliably by hand in one pass.
... To give yourself an advantage I would try to buy one of the 1/4" DeWalt pilot point drillbits. They drill extremely well with lo effort. To lube / cool, dip the tip in a shallow pool of lube about every 30 sec. ... As LD1 said, read the chip. Press hard enuf that the tip makes constant progress - no skating because it will dull it. Ill guess that you need 20 or 30 lbs pressure and 300-800 rpm. Learn to read the feel of imminent break thru and ease pressure so you dont chip the drill tip.
larry

Right rpm speed ...lubricant if gets to hot...its all been said already.

I'd be surprised to do a step up into that size hole on angle iron. Center punching certainly helps with skating.

Oh god most of the cheap import bits are so bad they are just totally worthless!

Brandi, Larry, & LD1 share my views for the most part. When drilling, milling, turning always read the chip.
1/4" a bit small to pilot, IMO,

Best advice in the thread IMO. Pretty much sums up my first post in the thread.

But to each his own. Drill them however it is easier for you. If you want to risk breaking a bunch of bits and making the 1/4" bit real grabby, then by all means drill a pilot.

I am not against cutting fluid either. Use it if you like. But for what you are drilling, I dont think it is necessary. IT wont hurt, just not a necessity.

Bottom line is read the chip. If its blue, you need to change what you are doing. IF there isnt any chips, you need to change what you are doing.
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #52  
He is drilling 40 holes. He can drill a few with and without a pilot hole, and see what works best.
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #53  
A pilot hole should be smaller than the distance across the web of the next size bit. A pilot hole for a 1/4" bit would be a waste of time and resources. Apply cutting oil not lube oil. Water would be better than any lube oil. For best efficiency run at or near the recommended RPM.
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #54  
Not too much into tech stuff, but as an apprentice my mechanic showed me that just the way you stand can make that 110v drill a lot easier to push. Keep the rear leg straight and control pressure by lifting the close leg.....(drilling about waist height) This way your weight does the work, not your muscles....
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron?
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#55  
I finished my trailer today. :) With some re-engineering, I found that using 20 5/16" bolts would be just about as strong as using 40 1/4" bolts so I used the 5/16 ones. I did not drill a pilot hole.

I used a Dewalt cobalt pilot point 5/16 drill bit which was still just as sharp on the last hole as on the first. I had used some Dewalt titanium bits in the past and this bit put those to shame. I used my 18 volt Craftsman drill on the low range. I don't know exactly what speed it was, but it was probably about 300 rpm. Following advice that I got in this thread, I put as much pressure on the drill as I could and it drilled through the 1/4" angle iron making long spirals instead of little chips.

I did not use cutting fluid or coolant because at this low speed and with it cutting so fast, I could touch the bit after I drilled the hole and it wasn't even hot.

Now I understand how I burned up so many drill bits in the past by going at a high speed and not using much pressure with a hand drill on jobs like this.

Thanks to everyone who gave advice and I just wanted to let everyone know what worked best for me. This job turned out to be much easier than I had thought it would be. :thumbsup:
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #56  
Nicely done.

Probably just how I would have done it, be it 1/4" or 5/16". I assume dewalt saying "pilot point" is just a fancy name for split point bit?

You were probably going a but faster in low speed too. Most cordless drills are somewhere around 500rpm on low and somewhere around 1600-1800 on high. Be careful using low. Dont know just what kind of power your craftsman has, but on my 18v Milwaukee if I use low, I put the side handle on or make darn sure I got a good grip. Cause it will wrap you up.
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #57  
Nicely done.

Probably just how I would have done it, be it 1/4" or 5/16". I assume dewalt saying "pilot point" is just a fancy name for split point bit?
Pilot point has a small drill splitpoint profile for the 1st 1/32" or so, then blends to a very hi angle point [170*?] to make the nominal hole size. Pilot points are available down to nominal size of ~3/16".

Yould not want to use a pilot point to enlarge a hole.
larry
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #58  
I see. I googled some images:thumbsup:

Not sure how I would like them. The look expensive. And forget about sharpening.

I like the bits we been getting at work. Triumph Thunderbits.
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #59  
I see. I googled some images:thumbsup:

Not sure how I would like them. The look expensive. And forget about sharpening.

I like the bits we been getting at work. Triumph Thunderbits.
Pilot point, I believe, is aimed at the geterdone/contractor niche. Fast drilling, durable, and usable well into dullness - as the drill body cut angle forces the small tip. Then throw away. ... They could be resharpened to a more standard profile tho.

Not terrible on expense. I got a 16 pc set to 1/2" @ Grainger for around twice the price. ... And Grainger had to be part of that factor.
larry
 
   / What's the secret to drilling through 1/4" angle iron? #60  
Heat is the enemy here, thus the need for proper speed and weight loading to cut instead of slipping or grinding and the need for a cooling cutting fluid. I had an experience yesterday in cutting an overly long PTO shaft to fit my tiller on a CUT. All I had was a framed hacksaw and a good blade. The use of Brownell's Dew Drill cutting fluid made the daunting job a lot more tolerable, cut pretty fast . The blade remained fairly cool, the chips floated away from the cut, and blade was still sharp after the four cuts (I cut a bit too long the first try). The fluid is good for heavy filing too; and, of course, drilling metal. The tools stay sharp much longer and hold their temper, thus the operator holds his temper too ;-)

prs
 

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