Whats wrong with my Land plane build?

[Gmoney44]

Had someone build a land plane for me that doesn't seem to be working correctly and I'm wondering if it's the build. I can't seem to get it to adjust correctly to have material flow correctly, it doesnt give smooth finish on dirt and it just piles up. Is something wrong with design? And if so any specfics details to pass onto my welder would be much appreciated.

 

[Smokeydog]

Big variations in land plane designs and I’m sure in performance. Briefly had a well known manufacturer LP with short sides and nearly straight blades that didn’t perform well. Traded for an EA LP. Big difference in performance. Encourage you to watch the EA video on how and why they design and manufacture their LP compared to yours. Side length and height important.

A knife is not difficult to make. A good working knife takes skill and attention to details.

 

[thclimer]

The picture where you are using it looks to be more like dirt with possibly clumps of grass/roots rather than stone/gravel. Stone/gravel will roll or flow over the bars easier than something that clumps like grass or dirt with clay. However, the dirt which you are dragging in your picture looks to very dry and I would think other than grass/roots should flow over the bars. If the dirt was wet I could easily see where it would clump and flow over the bars in clumps.

One concern I may see is the distance between the top cross member and the top of the first cutting bar. On my Brush Hog that distance is 6" What is your distance?

Do you have any pictures of why you say it is not smooth?

 

[workinonit]

These are just opinions based on my build which works flawlessly. First off, that thing would have cutter blades on it if it were mine. They would protrude at least 1/2" below the sides. In the pics it looks like you have too much front and not enough rear lift adjustment. Material pouring over the blades is not a bad thing as long as it's not too much. You need to get that back blade engaged some before anything else can be observed.

 

[deezler]

All your pictures of it not working are on a gravel drive, but you are upset about how it works on dirt with grass in it?

Looks a little tight between the front blade and the top cross member, but that's hard to adjust now. My land plane (bad boy grader scraper) has both blade at an angle, not just the front one. But that doesn't look like your issue from the pics. Is it just standard angle iron, or do you have a sharper cutting edge welded onto it?

 

[LD1]

It dont look like a terrible build.

The more angle the cutting blades have the better. And it only looks like the front one is angled and the rear one is just straight.

But I think this is just a material issue. Those things really arent made to "level" non-uniform material....like your mix of dirt, and grass clumps.

 

[workinonit]

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[scootr]

I would add cutting edges and allow them the hang 1/2" below the angle iron.
A toplink would greatly improve the workability. Changing the angle while running can increase or decrease the cut as needed.
That is a good looking unit.

 

[oosik]

What scootr says. AND - I've found that dead grass, grass clumps, dead weeds, brush - do not work well with my Land Pride LPGS either. They ball up ahead of the front blade. Do not flow over to engage the second blade.

Properly adjusted - your LPGS should work well on normal driveway materials. Gravel, dirt, sand.........

 

[2manyrocks]

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Looks to me like this kind of design that has more length to it would be better for attaining a smooth finish.

 

[sandman2234]

Looks to me like this kind of design that has more length to it would be better for attaining a smooth finish.

While this design might work better for a smooth finish, I can't see how it would be able to leave the crown in a road, unless it requires that it be used in conjunction with other means that mechanically tilt it.
Just my observations, be nice to know if it will actually crown a road.
David from jax

 

[Williy]

IMHO you would tilt it run up one side and down the other
the high ridge would be centered

willy

 

[Gordon Gould]

Mine works best when I adjust the top link so that both blades are carrying the same amount of material. Sod does cause trouble and may take several passes to break it up. Try adding some weight. Cutting edges will help too. I have never worked with material quite that loose but on mine speed is a big factor on how it flows.

gg

 

[K5lwq]

I believe the top link mount on the implement is way too short. I would weld a taller mount so the angle down is not so aggressive. The way it is now I could see the back tilting up and bending your top link or your PTO cover even more than it is now.

Something like this angle would work much better and allow you to adjust the back blade down.

 

[D&D]

Had someone build a land plane for me that doesn't seem to be working correctly and I'm wondering if it's the build. I can't seem to get it to adjust correctly to have material flow correctly, it doesnt give smooth finish on dirt and it just piles up. Is something wrong with design? And if so any specfics details to pass onto my welder would be much appreciated. View attachment 809789View attachment 809790View attachment 809791

Maybe the only thing wrong is an adjustment on the top link. Try raising the front a tad.
Grader blades could be added for some longevity, however, welding in replacement angle isn’t that tough.

 

[D&D]

Those things really arent made to "level" non-uniform material....like your mix of dirt, and grass clumps.

Then why name it a “land plane”?

 

[K5lwq]

Then why name it a “land plane”?

I don’t know because this is what I know as a land plane and was used to level fields. I spent many of days using one just like this on the farm.

 

[D&D]

I don’t know because this is what I know as a land plane and was used to level fields. I spent many of days using one just like this on theLand leveler in picture

that’s a land leveler Tough to use in modern neighborhoods

 

[LD1]

Then why name it a “land plane”?

Good question....I would expect with a name like that for it to have wings and be capable of flight.

 

[chim]

As others mentioned, the blade should protrude below the sides. Easiest solution would be to add cutter to the front blade. In its current configuration it appears to be limited to knocking off high spots.

Lots of vegetation shown. I'd York rake that stuff away to be able to work with the dirt/gravel.

A chain might work better than a toplink. The lift arms will allow adjustment of the aggressiveness of cut. Raising it slightly lets it deposit material and smooth it out.


There are several threads on here with examples of home made land planes. See link below. Look around and experiment.

Lets See Your DIY Tow Behind Landplane

As title says.... Thinking of fabricating one to tow behind my scut, either 48 or 54 inch wide....

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