What's wrong with this tractor???

[kebo]

Really hate to see this sort of stuff happen to such a nice tractor, but often times it's the result of abuse or operator error... ie bad judgement or just no common sense. Btw, this one is for sale for $5k on tractorhouse.

 

[beenthere]

Drop a tree on it, lose the FEL while going down the road, or put a 3 ph backhoe on it?

Any more info?

 

[dex3361]

Really hate to see this sort of stuff happen to such a nice tractor, but often times it's the result of abuse or operator error... ie bad judgement or just no common sense. Btw, this one is for sale for $5k on tractorhouse.

Now that I look at it, it seems like the loader is crooked and that the hood is tilted back to far like it is cracked in half and sagging.

 

[kebo]

Drop a tree on it, lose the FEL while going down the road, or put a 3 ph backhoe on it?

Any more info?

No, I have no info on what happened to it. It probably would be interesting to know the story behind it though There's a JD tractor (split in the middle) sitting on a big trailer parked in front of a house not too far from where I work at. If I wasn't to timid to stop and ask, I stop by and find out what happened and take a couple pic's of it.

 

[WH401]

That tractor was listed on Ebay recently, and yes, it is in fact cracked around the area of the transmission. I remember the listing stating what happened to it, but I don't recall the exact reason off the top of my head.

 

[Willl]

Wait a minute,,,where's the 3 pt backhoe ?

 

[stlbill]

Wait a minute,,,where's the 3 pt backhoe ?

I read 3PH backhoes are not recommended and supported on John Deere tractors. Perhaps Beenthere was reflecting on his knowledge of what happens if you try to do it anyway.

-Bill

 

[Willl]

I read 3PH backhoes are not recommended and supported on John Deere tractors.

Mine came from the dealer with a 3pt BH.

Perhaps Beenthere was reflecting on his knowledge of what happens if you try to do it anyway.

Actually, my post wasn't in reference to Beenthere's, didn't even see his.

Mine was made with sarcasm (hence the 4 sarcastic smileys) cause most folks believe tractors broken like this are caused by 3pt BH's.

But just like UFO's and bigfoot, there's no proof.

 

[glc24]

It looks like the thing is broke in half. Seems to be chains wrapped around something and what looks like a chain binder,then again maybe not.

Greg

 

[Thomas]

Hope nobody was in the seat at the time of mishapes...yikes.
5K..might not be bad deal if another has same model..parts.

 

[Trails2004]

I think it came off a trailer- while being transported.

 

[megotatractor]

Here's a farfetched theory; looking at the chains, could someone have simply overtightened a chain binder around the middle on a trailer???? Although, Holmes, note the dent in the bucket which might indicate a traffic accident during transport... Or a tornado?

 

[JB4310]

Definitely a catastrophic casting failure, looks like the chain is holding it up and together somewhat.

As far as the 3pt BH's, my back hoe is lifted with 3pt but is plate mounted to axle housing, there is an optional undercarriage that transfers some of the stress forward to the middle of the machine.

This undercarriage I think comes standard with the back hoes now but when I got mine I was never aware of it. they say in extreme service without the additional support that the machine can be literally broken in half. not to common but has happened especially to rental fleet machines.

I don't use my back hoe much, so for now I haven't bought the undercarriage yet. they say to help prevent greater stress to machine don't raise the rear wheels off the ground with outriggers, just use them as stabilizers and keep wheels in contact with ground.

Alot of people, myself included think you should have the machine way up in the air on the stabilizers.

JB.

 

[Willl]

Alot of people, myself included think you should have the machine way up in the air on the stabilizers.

Your operators manual will tell you different on a '3pt' BH.

 

[Muxster]

I have a theory. It was being towed on a trailer with the back-end forward. While traveling at high speed the ROPS roll bar struck a low bridge or something. That may provide enough leverage to apply lots of force to the middle and break it in half.

 

[AKfish]

I've never seen damages such as this from using a 3pt backhoe (tractor broken in half).

However, a search here on TBN will provide you some pictures of tractors that have suffered catastrophic damage to the rear axle housing (primarily at the top link) from 3pt backhoe's.

Nonetheless, $5K for that 790 would be good deal if you already owned a 790... be a great parts machine. And the loader is a newer generation and would be a step up from the 419 or model 70 loaders.

AKfish

 

[Willl]

However, a search here on TBN will provide you some pictures of tractors that have suffered catastrophic damage to the rear axle housing (primarily at the top link) from 3pt backhoe's.

OK, I've done this search and I'm not seeing what your talking about.

Links please.

 

[AKfish]

OK, I've done this search and I'm not seeing what your talking about.

Links please.

Willl -- this took about 2 minutes to find... I'll do some more digging, too. I've never seen the problem with JD. If memory serves, the last problem I recall in this regard was an orange or red tractor - maybe Kioti.

Check this out - http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/m...oke-today.html

AKfish

 

[Willl]

Link not working and what search terms did you use ?

 

[AKfish]

Willl - http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/a...ust-facts.html

AKfish