nikdfish
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2020 Ram 5.7, 17-18 mixed driving (w/out towing) , 14 w/towing in the mix, 11-12 while towing the 7k trailers (car hauler, dump, utility/landscape) w/average loads.
But I bet that Suburban rides much nicer and is more comfortable on such a long drive. It's been a few years, but any Suburu I've driven was not very comfortable, very cramped driving position.When we drive our Suburban to Oklahoma, about 875 miles, we're lucky to get 17-18mpg. When we take the Subaru, we get 34mpg. That's 100% better mileage, or, half the fuel costs. Round trip it's a bit over 100 gallons of gas VS about 50. @ $3.89/gallon = $389 VS $194.
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So, if you drive a lot, high MPG vehicles are well worth it. Not so much if you don't put in the miles.
Yes, the 2003 Suburban is quite comfortable. Couch on wheels. However, the 2020 Subaru Outback is quite comfortable as well. The seats are very adjustable, great support, heaters, etc. Plus, the Subaru has Apple Car Play and Subaru EyeSight. Those features make it much less tiring to drive long distances. Overall, while I really like the ride of the Suburban, I'm giving the nod to the Outback for long distance driving. Much easier on the body. I don't have to cram myself in it. I have to move the seat forward to reach the pedals.But I bet that Suburban rides much nicer and is more comfortable on such a long drive. It's been a few years, but any Suburu I've driven was not very comfortable, very cramped driving position.
That's the downside of most high MPG vehicles...you trade comfort and often performance for fuel economy. I'm 73, too few years left to cram myself into some econobox just to save a few bucks on gas.
Anyway...my "fleet";
'02 Dodge Dakota/4.7 4WD: 17
'06 Jeep Grand Cherokee/3.7 AWD: 20ish everyday driving, 24-25 on a trip
Wife's:
'15 Buick Regal AWD (turbo 4 don't know displacement) 28 if she drives, low 30s if I drive.
I find VW Jettas ride and drive pretty comfortable. Certainly better than the Japanese cars of the same vintage that I have driven. A VW Beetle or a Golf is more like a tin box. Fuel economy and performance from a diesel is pretty descent. Gas economy is ok if you keep your foot out of it. Getting in and out of them is harder than a pickup or a mini van but to cram yourself into them is a stretch of the word.That's the downside of most high MPG vehicles...you trade comfort and often performance for fuel economy. I'm 73, too few years left to cram myself into some econobox just to save a few bucks on gas.
Haven't driven a VW in a very long time so I can't comment on them. I was more thinking most Japanese makes, which I've long found to be rather cramped inside.I find VW Jettas ride and drive pretty comfortable. Certainly better than the Japanese cars of the same vintage that I have driven. A VW Beetle or a Golf is more like a tin box. Fuel economy and performance from a diesel is pretty descent. Gas economy is ok if you keep your foot out of it. Getting in and out of them is harder than a pickup or a mini van but to cram yourself into them is a stretch of the word.