Wheel loader pairing up with lightweight forestry mulcher, can it work ?.

[Arkan]

Uh oh,that would be very expensive option ,il give him idea ,but i think we will try to do it with tractor after all.
Milling road is i think harder job for machine than lightweight mulcher ,i was thinking something 2 meters wide,this road miller have some 1 meter.
On this link there is some data about flow and pressure required,but still that is some heavy rotor mulchers if it can cut up to 8 inches wood.
MINIFORST cl - Forestry mulcher for skid steer loader
I can't help but wondering how can these little skid steer machines work with those heavy type mulchers ?,there is no way they have more powerful hydraulic than loader.


And some loaders also have same heavy mulcher types on them:

DAF-18D - Most Efficient Forestry Mulching Attachment for 75 hp Skid-steers or CTL and up - YouTube.

 

[Arkan]

Uh oh,that would be very expensive option ,il give him idea ,but i think we will try to do it with tractor after all.
Milling road is i think harder job for machine than lightweight mulcher ,i was thinking something 2 meters wide,this road miller have some 1 meter.
On this link there is some data about flow and pressure required,but still that is some heavy rotor mulchers if it can cut up to 8 inches wood.
MINIFORST cl - Forestry mulcher for skid steer loader
I can't help but wondering how can these little skid steer machines work with those heavy type mulchers ?,there is no way they have more powerful hydraulic than loader.


And some loaders also have same heavy mulcher types on them:

DAF-18D - Most Efficient Forestry Mulching Attachment for 75 hp Skid-steers or CTL and up - YouTube.

Edit:These would be type of rotors on lightweight mulchers we are interested in ,some 2 meters wide.

 

[Fallon]

Those 2 pictures look more like flail mowers than a forestry mulcher. Flex mounted hammers rather than hard mounted teeth. My Peruzzo Brush Bull flail is setup like that & will chew up wrist sized trees pretty well.

Those skid steers generally have more HP than your loader. Way more than they can use driving or running the loader as they are designed for high flow high power implements. The dedicated mulching machines look like a funky skidsteer but have double or triple the engine hanging out the back.

 

[Arkan]

I am sorry my english is not perfect ,i just used word lightweight ,as smaller rotor size, smaller weight of rotor,smaller hp required to run it.
On this video it's exact thing ,same rotor have,same hammers on it ,like on pictures in my post above.Although he is cutting thicker material that i would have job for it,that's for sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3FrfSh3_HI&ab_channel=OpgBorevković
Those type of ''lightweight'' mulchers 2-2.5 meter wide ,that are tractor pto powered ,are requiring some 70-100 engine hp.

Here on picture bellow are some ''bushes'' we would have to cut with mulcher,it's much thinner than those on video,this on picture is 1 or 2 fingers thick max and ground level,everything above is just branches.BUT ,that devil thing grow 4-5 + meters in height and it's like connected ,if u cut it at ground level it doesn't crash to ground ,it stay above,u can make tunnels trough it with tractor.That's why it need to be on some type of arm ,like excavator ,or in our case ,in front of loader instead bucket.So we cut first higher points,than lower.
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[Industrial Toys]

If it's a one time job, why not just rent or hire the right equipment?

 

[Arkan]

It's not really,we do need mulcher allot on our farm field,we plan to buy it anyway for our tractors,but for that job only loader or some equipment that can lift mulcher high can do the job,or at least easily,like excavator or idk.Or ofc ,heavy forest beasts that mulch trees and everything on their path ,something like buldozers with mulchers in front,but it would be funny to use something that powerfull ,and expensive ofc,to just mulch thin bushes that are complicated due to their height and intertwined branches....Companies we called ,more or less have all simillar prices +- 1000 euro per hectare ,maybe it's cheap to someone ,but to us ,not really.Money we would need to pay for someone to do that job for us would be more or less similar,or even more, than to equip our loader with some used mulcher, hydraulic motor ,oil coolant and whatever is needed for it to do that job.We are looking it that way,but if that loader is no capable of working with lightweight mulcher we will pay someone to do it,we will lose money but....Tractor is i think out of option,i watched today near road while i was going to town some company that are maintaining them in my country,they cut trees near roads ,bushes ,repair roads,traffic signs etc.They used tractor with pto driven mulcher at the back, mulching same bushes we would have to,and tractor cannot push all that material ,mulcher cut's everything near ground perfectly,but at cab height nothing is happening,tractor is pushing all that material into more bushes ,and eventually he spin tires or damage machine.They later bring mulcher that is on arm at the back of tractor ,and they did it easily ,but we do not need that type of mulcher,we won't buy it for that one time job.
We can re-sell hydraulic motor after the job is done,but for 400-600 euro ,hardly.Oil coolant is nothing but only positive upgrade for loader so he will stay on it for sure.And mulcher as most expensive thing in that, to call it upgrade of loader to mulch bushes ,as i say,he will be used allot on our farm fields.

 

[Industrial Toys]

And you don't have access to a larger tractor? I mean 3ph stuff sucks, but it would work, going backwards.

If I had a larger tractor, I always wanted a MERICRUSHER. Pulverizes anything including stone! But pricey!

ONE of my main lessons in life, is not to try and REINVENT the WHEEL!

 

[Rustyiron]

Arkan - you misunderstood me, my picture only represented the arrangement or the idea of an auxiliary engine to power your mower/mulcher leaving the hydraulic system on your loader alone.

 

[Rustyiron]

Arkan - you misunderstood me, my picture only represented the arrangement or the idea of an auxiliary engine to power your mower/mulcher leaving the hydraulic system on your loader alone.

 

[oldnslo]

Arkan,
With 260 rpm flow you could drive a 472 cc per revolution motor at 550 RPM or a 520 cc per revolution motor at 500 RPM. The concern or unknown is do you have the cooling capacity to run the full 260 rpm without over heating your oil.

Is this the same pump that raises and lowers the bucket? If yes then your cutter head speed will change every time you raise and lower the bucket.