Wheel Motor Leak
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KentT
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have hillsides that vary from a few degrees to almost 45. I am sure the wider stance helps. I have had several instances where the tractor with mower started sliding sideways on the steeper slopes and it gets real scary.
Personally I think the seal leak was not due to the wider stance but the abuse I put the machine thru. I am guilty of ramming into objects to get them to move. I am also guilty of lifting move than I should.
I have used the beast to push up hundreds of stumps, tons of rocks, pushed up live trees, and 10 truckloads of 10 CY of dirt. My wife keeps telling me we got our moneys worth but I always want it to do more.
-Tim
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I like your attitude! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I buy my tools to use them, also...
Personally I think the seal leak was not due to the wider stance but the abuse I put the machine thru. I am guilty of ramming into objects to get them to move. I am also guilty of lifting move than I should.
I have used the beast to push up hundreds of stumps, tons of rocks, pushed up live trees, and 10 truckloads of 10 CY of dirt. My wife keeps telling me we got our moneys worth but I always want it to do more.
-Tim
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I like your attitude! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I buy my tools to use them, also...
KentT
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have hillsides that vary from a few degrees to almost 45. I am sure the wider stance helps. I have had several instances where the tractor with mower started sliding sideways on the steeper slopes and it gets real scary.
Personally I think the seal leak was not due to the wider stance but the abuse I put the machine thru. I am guilty of ramming into objects to get them to move. I am also guilty of lifting move than I should.
I have used the beast to push up hundreds of stumps, tons of rocks, pushed up live trees, and 10 truckloads of 10 CY of dirt. My wife keeps telling me we got our moneys worth but I always want it to do more.
-Tim
)</font>
I like your attitude! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I buy my tools to use them, also...
Personally I think the seal leak was not due to the wider stance but the abuse I put the machine thru. I am guilty of ramming into objects to get them to move. I am also guilty of lifting move than I should.
I have used the beast to push up hundreds of stumps, tons of rocks, pushed up live trees, and 10 truckloads of 10 CY of dirt. My wife keeps telling me we got our moneys worth but I always want it to do more.
-Tim
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I like your attitude! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif I buy my tools to use them, also...
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I am a little curious about the windshield washer fluid, and the tire sealant that you put in your tires. How did you come up with that mix, and does it work. I know the washer fluid adds weight, but do you still have an effective sealant in your tires. Do they mix, or stay separated?
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I am a little curious about the windshield washer fluid, and the tire sealant that you put in your tires. How did you come up with that mix, and does it work. I know the washer fluid adds weight, but do you still have an effective sealant in your tires. Do they mix, or stay separated?
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I am a little curious about the windshield washer fluid, and the tire sealant that you put in your tires. How did you come up with that mix, and does it work. I know the washer fluid adds weight, but do you still have an effective sealant in your tires. Do they mix, or stay separated? )</font>>
JJ, I've been using winter-mix windshield washer fluid to load garden tractor tires for quite a few years, since it is inexpensive, non-corrosive and won't freeze until -20F. So, that's been my modus operandi. I personally prefer loaded tires to either wheel weights or frame weights such as "suitcase" weights or ballast boxes. It puts the added weight on the ground and not on the wheel/axle bearings (or wheel motors in this case) as do the other two alternatives.
Before I loaded my tires, I'd had something like 3 flats in two weeks working in the woods behind my house. So, I was simultaneously looking for something like "Slime" to solve that problem. Someone here on TBN recommended a product called Multi-Seal, an industrial grade tire sealant used by the military to plug bullet holes. While on their site, I noticed that they also had a product called Hydro-Seal -- which is the only sealant I could find for loaded tires.
I called and talked to their engineering department to see if Hydro-Seal is compatible with WW fluid and they said it absolutely was. So I bought a 5 gallon pail and used about 4 gallons when I loaded my tires -- they recommend a 1:7 or 1:8 ratio. It is some type of fiberglass-like fiber suspended in a thick, sticky liquid, which thorougly mixes with whatever fluid you have in your tires.
It supposedly works similar to blood clotting. During a leak, the escaping fluid carries the fiber to the hole, where it plugs the gap and the sticky liquid part of it dries on/around the fiber and forms a solid plug.
I loaded my tires last August and haven't had a problem since -- other than one valve stem that I broke off in the woods... nothing short of foam-filled would've solved that...
It's expensive stuff -- as I recall, I paid about $200 for the 5-gallon pail -- with shipping -- the smallest size they sell.
Multi-Seal & Hydro-Seal
JJ, I've been using winter-mix windshield washer fluid to load garden tractor tires for quite a few years, since it is inexpensive, non-corrosive and won't freeze until -20F. So, that's been my modus operandi. I personally prefer loaded tires to either wheel weights or frame weights such as "suitcase" weights or ballast boxes. It puts the added weight on the ground and not on the wheel/axle bearings (or wheel motors in this case) as do the other two alternatives.
Before I loaded my tires, I'd had something like 3 flats in two weeks working in the woods behind my house. So, I was simultaneously looking for something like "Slime" to solve that problem. Someone here on TBN recommended a product called Multi-Seal, an industrial grade tire sealant used by the military to plug bullet holes. While on their site, I noticed that they also had a product called Hydro-Seal -- which is the only sealant I could find for loaded tires.
I called and talked to their engineering department to see if Hydro-Seal is compatible with WW fluid and they said it absolutely was. So I bought a 5 gallon pail and used about 4 gallons when I loaded my tires -- they recommend a 1:7 or 1:8 ratio. It is some type of fiberglass-like fiber suspended in a thick, sticky liquid, which thorougly mixes with whatever fluid you have in your tires.
It supposedly works similar to blood clotting. During a leak, the escaping fluid carries the fiber to the hole, where it plugs the gap and the sticky liquid part of it dries on/around the fiber and forms a solid plug.
I loaded my tires last August and haven't had a problem since -- other than one valve stem that I broke off in the woods... nothing short of foam-filled would've solved that...
It's expensive stuff -- as I recall, I paid about $200 for the 5-gallon pail -- with shipping -- the smallest size they sell.
Multi-Seal & Hydro-Seal
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I am a little curious about the windshield washer fluid, and the tire sealant that you put in your tires. How did you come up with that mix, and does it work. I know the washer fluid adds weight, but do you still have an effective sealant in your tires. Do they mix, or stay separated? )</font>>
JJ, I've been using winter-mix windshield washer fluid to load garden tractor tires for quite a few years, since it is inexpensive, non-corrosive and won't freeze until -20F. So, that's been my modus operandi. I personally prefer loaded tires to either wheel weights or frame weights such as "suitcase" weights or ballast boxes. It puts the added weight on the ground and not on the wheel/axle bearings (or wheel motors in this case) as do the other two alternatives.
Before I loaded my tires, I'd had something like 3 flats in two weeks working in the woods behind my house. So, I was simultaneously looking for something like "Slime" to solve that problem. Someone here on TBN recommended a product called Multi-Seal, an industrial grade tire sealant used by the military to plug bullet holes. While on their site, I noticed that they also had a product called Hydro-Seal -- which is the only sealant I could find for loaded tires.
I called and talked to their engineering department to see if Hydro-Seal is compatible with WW fluid and they said it absolutely was. So I bought a 5 gallon pail and used about 4 gallons when I loaded my tires -- they recommend a 1:7 or 1:8 ratio. It is some type of fiberglass-like fiber suspended in a thick, sticky liquid, which thorougly mixes with whatever fluid you have in your tires.
It supposedly works similar to blood clotting. During a leak, the escaping fluid carries the fiber to the hole, where it plugs the gap and the sticky liquid part of it dries on/around the fiber and forms a solid plug.
I loaded my tires last August and haven't had a problem since -- other than one valve stem that I broke off in the woods... nothing short of foam-filled would've solved that...
It's expensive stuff -- as I recall, I paid about $200 for the 5-gallon pail -- with shipping -- the smallest size they sell.
Multi-Seal & Hydro-Seal
JJ, I've been using winter-mix windshield washer fluid to load garden tractor tires for quite a few years, since it is inexpensive, non-corrosive and won't freeze until -20F. So, that's been my modus operandi. I personally prefer loaded tires to either wheel weights or frame weights such as "suitcase" weights or ballast boxes. It puts the added weight on the ground and not on the wheel/axle bearings (or wheel motors in this case) as do the other two alternatives.
Before I loaded my tires, I'd had something like 3 flats in two weeks working in the woods behind my house. So, I was simultaneously looking for something like "Slime" to solve that problem. Someone here on TBN recommended a product called Multi-Seal, an industrial grade tire sealant used by the military to plug bullet holes. While on their site, I noticed that they also had a product called Hydro-Seal -- which is the only sealant I could find for loaded tires.
I called and talked to their engineering department to see if Hydro-Seal is compatible with WW fluid and they said it absolutely was. So I bought a 5 gallon pail and used about 4 gallons when I loaded my tires -- they recommend a 1:7 or 1:8 ratio. It is some type of fiberglass-like fiber suspended in a thick, sticky liquid, which thorougly mixes with whatever fluid you have in your tires.
It supposedly works similar to blood clotting. During a leak, the escaping fluid carries the fiber to the hole, where it plugs the gap and the sticky liquid part of it dries on/around the fiber and forms a solid plug.
I loaded my tires last August and haven't had a problem since -- other than one valve stem that I broke off in the woods... nothing short of foam-filled would've solved that...
It's expensive stuff -- as I recall, I paid about $200 for the 5-gallon pail -- with shipping -- the smallest size they sell.
Multi-Seal & Hydro-Seal
tracdoc
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Someone here on TBN recommended a product called Multi-Seal, an industrial grade tire sealant used by the military to plug bullet holes. )</font>
Kent,
I had seen reference awhile back on the Forum to a product called "UltraSeal" (sounds like MultiSeal and HydroSeal /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif), which was supposed to plug half-inch bullet holes. I think it was Charlie Iliff who noted Gempler's as a source for their bullet-proof grade,{HERE} used by the military. I have been using it for >18 mo w/o a flat or any other problem.
Just to avoid confusion, I cannot find anywhere an acknowledgement that UltraSeal {HERE} is compatible with filling fluids. In contrast, the HydroSeal product that you are using is fully compatible with filling agents /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
I am interested in filling, so I have an inquiry into the UltraSeal tech support to see if UltraSeal is also compatile with filling agents. I will post a follow-up here as soon as I hear back.
Kent,
I had seen reference awhile back on the Forum to a product called "UltraSeal" (sounds like MultiSeal and HydroSeal /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif), which was supposed to plug half-inch bullet holes. I think it was Charlie Iliff who noted Gempler's as a source for their bullet-proof grade,{HERE} used by the military. I have been using it for >18 mo w/o a flat or any other problem.
Just to avoid confusion, I cannot find anywhere an acknowledgement that UltraSeal {HERE} is compatible with filling fluids. In contrast, the HydroSeal product that you are using is fully compatible with filling agents /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
I am interested in filling, so I have an inquiry into the UltraSeal tech support to see if UltraSeal is also compatile with filling agents. I will post a follow-up here as soon as I hear back.
tracdoc
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Someone here on TBN recommended a product called Multi-Seal, an industrial grade tire sealant used by the military to plug bullet holes. )</font>
Kent,
I had seen reference awhile back on the Forum to a product called "UltraSeal" (sounds like MultiSeal and HydroSeal /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif), which was supposed to plug half-inch bullet holes. I think it was Charlie Iliff who noted Gempler's as a source for their bullet-proof grade,{HERE} used by the military. I have been using it for >18 mo w/o a flat or any other problem.
Just to avoid confusion, I cannot find anywhere an acknowledgement that UltraSeal {HERE} is compatible with filling fluids. In contrast, the HydroSeal product that you are using is fully compatible with filling agents /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
I am interested in filling, so I have an inquiry into the UltraSeal tech support to see if UltraSeal is also compatile with filling agents. I will post a follow-up here as soon as I hear back.
Kent,
I had seen reference awhile back on the Forum to a product called "UltraSeal" (sounds like MultiSeal and HydroSeal /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif), which was supposed to plug half-inch bullet holes. I think it was Charlie Iliff who noted Gempler's as a source for their bullet-proof grade,{HERE} used by the military. I have been using it for >18 mo w/o a flat or any other problem.
Just to avoid confusion, I cannot find anywhere an acknowledgement that UltraSeal {HERE} is compatible with filling fluids. In contrast, the HydroSeal product that you are using is fully compatible with filling agents /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
I am interested in filling, so I have an inquiry into the UltraSeal tech support to see if UltraSeal is also compatile with filling agents. I will post a follow-up here as soon as I hear back.
