Wheel Motor Leak

   / Wheel Motor Leak #51  
<font color="blue"> And MR beat me again.... </font>

Sorry, I was watching hard drives format (kind of like watching cement dry) and had a few moments to kill. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / Wheel Motor Leak #52  
Just to add more data to this problem. A seal leak by itself is no big deal and happens frequently. Hydraulic pressure, type of fluid, type of seal, bearings all these items can fail, or cause other parts to fail, Side loads, vertical loads, all have to be taken into account when they design something like a wheel motor. If you can look at the specs for the motor, it will tell you the max force that the unit can operate with life expectancy of so many hours. That motor could fail with in one hour, or used three times as originally designed.

If one puts additional forces loads on the motor, you will probably decrease the useful life of that motor. Additional stress could be, hitting pot holes, running over ruts fast, and the big one. adding a super big load on those front wheel motors, with half a ton to a ton of weight on the front end. Common sense will tell it will try and bend the motor and frame and make the unit squat. If the frame and motor body is strong enough, the shaft will take that extra force on the bearings and seal. I would bet that if the manufacture knew that you exceeded their limit, they would void your warranty. Does anyone know if most of the wheel motor failures are on the front. The rear wheel motors have the same stress all the time, or even less. Why, because if you are lifting 1200 lbs, that rear end has to be lighter than before the load was lifted. If you exceed the load, you know what will happen. Those front wheel motors take most of the abuse, or stress.
 
   / Wheel Motor Leak #53  
Just to add more data to this problem. A seal leak by itself is no big deal and happens frequently. Hydraulic pressure, type of fluid, type of seal, bearings all these items can fail, or cause other parts to fail, Side loads, vertical loads, all have to be taken into account when they design something like a wheel motor. If you can look at the specs for the motor, it will tell you the max force that the unit can operate with life expectancy of so many hours. That motor could fail with in one hour, or used three times as originally designed.

If one puts additional forces loads on the motor, you will probably decrease the useful life of that motor. Additional stress could be, hitting pot holes, running over ruts fast, and the big one. adding a super big load on those front wheel motors, with half a ton to a ton of weight on the front end. Common sense will tell it will try and bend the motor and frame and make the unit squat. If the frame and motor body is strong enough, the shaft will take that extra force on the bearings and seal. I would bet that if the manufacture knew that you exceeded their limit, they would void your warranty. Does anyone know if most of the wheel motor failures are on the front. The rear wheel motors have the same stress all the time, or even less. Why, because if you are lifting 1200 lbs, that rear end has to be lighter than before the load was lifted. If you exceed the load, you know what will happen. Those front wheel motors take most of the abuse, or stress.
 
   / Wheel Motor Leak #54  
I tried reversing wheels on the 1430 for field mowing on hillsides but the wheels come out wider than the mower and makes for a crummy job. I was thinking of trying some kind of spacers between the tub and the wheel motor brackets. There would be more stress on the bolts but they are a lot cheaper than wheel motors.
 
   / Wheel Motor Leak #55  
I tried reversing wheels on the 1430 for field mowing on hillsides but the wheels come out wider than the mower and makes for a crummy job. I was thinking of trying some kind of spacers between the tub and the wheel motor brackets. There would be more stress on the bolts but they are a lot cheaper than wheel motors.
 
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#56  
Kent,
I have around 800 hrs. It is 4 yrs old. I bought it used 2 yrs ago and it had 250 hrs on it.

Truthfully, the wheel reversal was an accident, just not paying attention as usual. I just needed an excuse to switch them back. Now I have one.
 

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#57  
Kent,
I have around 800 hrs. It is 4 yrs old. I bought it used 2 yrs ago and it had 250 hrs on it.

Truthfully, the wheel reversal was an accident, just not paying attention as usual. I just needed an excuse to switch them back. Now I have one.
 
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#58  
I have hillsides that vary from a few degrees to almost 45. I am sure the wider stance helps. I have had several instances where the tractor with mower started sliding sideways on the steeper slopes and it gets real scary.

Personally I think the seal leak was not due to the wider stance but the abuse I put the machine thru. I am guilty of ramming into objects to get them to move. I am also guilty of lifting move than I should.

I have used the beast to push up hundreds of stumps, tons of rocks, pushed up live trees, and 10 truckloads of 10 CY of dirt. My wife keeps telling me we got our moneys worth but I always want it to do more.
-Tim
 

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#59  
I have hillsides that vary from a few degrees to almost 45. I am sure the wider stance helps. I have had several instances where the tractor with mower started sliding sideways on the steeper slopes and it gets real scary.

Personally I think the seal leak was not due to the wider stance but the abuse I put the machine thru. I am guilty of ramming into objects to get them to move. I am also guilty of lifting move than I should.

I have used the beast to push up hundreds of stumps, tons of rocks, pushed up live trees, and 10 truckloads of 10 CY of dirt. My wife keeps telling me we got our moneys worth but I always want it to do more.
-Tim
 
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#60  
I are guilty (of ramming) and overloading. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

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