Wheel Spacer 27-2910

Minman · Dec 6, 2001

Ron,
I have R4's and plan to use the tractor for snowblowing the driveways to the new shop and the house. I have a fairly steep hill with dropoffs to each side.

In regard to making some sets of spacers, the industry is fairly slow right now, a great time to do some prototype work. The dealer quoted me a price for spacers that seems extremely high after seeing your picture. Also availability may be a large factor.
Brian

Anonymous Poster · Dec 6, 2001

I JUST INSTALLED 2 LINK LADDER CHAINS ON MY B2710 WITH R4'S. THE CHAINS WERE PURCHASED FROM TIRECHAINS.COM. THE CHAINS ONLY HAVE THE ADJUSTER ON ONE SIDE. THE OTHER IS JUST A SIMPLE HOOK.(CHAIN LINK WITH A SMALL SECTION CUT OUT).SINCE THE HOOK IS A CHAIN LINK I HAVE AN EVEN 1/2-3/4" DISTANCE FROM THE FENDER ALL THE WAY AROUND. NO BANG,CLICK,BOOP,DING. IF THERE WAS THE SAME ADJUSTER ON THE INSIDE - BANG,BANG,BANG,BANG.

DaveM · Dec 6, 2001

Hi Brian,

You've probably already figured out that there's no definitive answer to your question due to the different styles of chains and their clasps. I think you and your dealer will know immediately if there's a clearance problem. If you looked at the photo I attached in a previous message you'll see that I only need about 1/2" of additional clearance to use the duo-grip chains I bought (at my dealer's recommendation /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif).

For the rest of you that may have been waiting on an update from me... there's still been nothing to tell you. I'm still waiting! I've been calling my dealer once a week since the end of Oct. and they always give me "I don't know" or some excuse that changes everytime they tell me anything. If I ever get spacers and some info that would help others to get some, I'll post it ASAP.

Dave

RAllen · Dec 6, 2001

Dave

Thanks for the update. I wondered what happened to you. I seemed to luck out this year as the chains are not bumping anything this year...so far. But clearance is TIGHT and I am sure it will not last.

I do have a real problem, much worse than last year. My tires have 200 hours on them and, apparently, the wear has made them lose traction more rapidly. The fronts are the real problem. The chains on the R-4s take care of the back but the front tires are driving me crazy. I have some steep parts of the drive and the turn around and the front is slip-sliding around. Turning is almost impossible if I approach the hill from the wrong angle. I did not have these problems last year.

My dealer says NOT to put chains on the front and there is almost no space on between the inside tire and the tie-rods.
I am thinking of getting studs. I have no pavement as of now. If there anyone out there that have tried studs on a 2910? I know they will work on ice but my problem is snow. Its been too cold to form ice so far here in Montana. How did the studs do in snow?

Rick

DaveM · Dec 6, 2001

Rick,

This past spring when I got stranded down a snow covered path (and learned that I needed chains!) I had the same problem with my front wheels spinning and sliding side to side. At the time these tires only had 1.2 hours on them! Surface conditions and tire type means everything when it comes to traction.

I'd think studded front tires would help in snow but don't know if they'll be completely satisfactory for your conditions. Can studs be removed, say in the spring, without screwing up the tires? I too would like to hear anyone's experience with them.

Dave

ronjhall · Dec 6, 2001

Brian
Attached is a picture with all the dimensions that you should need to make spacers. I have included them in this post incase you can't read them in the JPG file.

Material CRS
OD 8.00"
ID 3.537"
Overall thickness 1.475"

Overall thickness could be
increased as long as wheel pilot
and axle bore are
Maintained.

Wheel pilot Dia.
is 4.320" X .20" high.

Counter bore axle side of spacer
4.335" Dia. X .440" deep

12 Holes Equally Spaced on
5.875 Bolt circle?? This diameter
was checked
with a tape measure

6 Holes 3/4-16 tap thru.
6 Holes .695 dia. drill thru,
Counter Bore 1.625" .630" deep

6 Bolts 3/4-16 X 2" long.
6 3/4" Flat washers
6 3/4" Lock Washers
2 studs are not required.
They are only to make it easier to put wheel on tractor,

If I missed any dimensions please let me know./w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif I will get them for you./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

RAllen · Dec 6, 2001

Dave

No studs cannot be removed. If you needed to remove studs you would go to two sets of wheels and tires for the front. If you have pavement, you would want to change out the wheels and tires in the spring. Of course, you could go with on set of wheels but you would have to have the proper tires mounted each spring and fall. With wheels you could do it yourself.

Rick

ronjhall · Dec 6, 2001

Dave
A few years back I played around with Snowmobiles and Motorcycles on the ice. /w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif It was amazing how much traction making the tire tread like a sponge could generate. We made two 12" rollers that had sharp nails sticking out of them. Then ran cycle tire on the rollers and nails until tread looked like a sponge. I don't think you want to do that to your tractor tires./w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif
There was another trick we used for traction that you may want to try. We would screw some radio cabinet screws into tires. The usually have a hex head about 1/4" to 9/32". I have attached a picture of some that I still have from those days. If you try this make sure that screws are not too long and go all the way threw tire. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif I had different lengths form ¼ to ½".

DaveM · Dec 6, 2001

Rick & Ron,

Thanks for the feedback. I didn't really expect that one could remove studs but thought I should ask. Those self tapping screws might do the trick though... and be removable. In a perfect world I'd probably own 3 complete sets of tires/rims. Ags, turfs and R4s... plus a good set of chains for the Ags /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif. But for this coming winter I'd be happy to just get some spacers so I can run the chains I already bought!

Take Care- Dave

PS- I don't think it's going to hit 60 degrees here today. Might even see some real snow by the new year. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

hayden · Dec 6, 2001

Ron,

I may be retracing old ground here, but what tires do you have that require spacers for chains? I've got R4s on my 2910 and use chains without any problem. It's tight, but it fits.