Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader?

   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #21  
When you look at the moving parts when activating the hydraulics, it is important that that the grease gets to those surfaces. The end of the pin is usually stationary and therefore not as important to have grease. The surface that moves on the pin is important. Post #7 shows where the grease should ooze out between the two pieces of the joint.
 
   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #22  
You are likely getting some grease in there, but the joint seems like it's a little tight. I assume this is new? My Kubota had trouble taking grease when new. Some of the bores were a little tight, so the grease would flow to the path of least resistance. Now with a few hundred hours and some loader work under its belt, all the joints take a good amount of grease and I get grease around each pin more uniformly.
 
   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #23  
That the thing, I am 99% there is no blockage, I took the pin out and cleaned every thing inside, I even tried to grease it with it off the tractor and grease comes out the pin hole no problem. The only way I can make grease come out from the joint is to loosen the bolt, grease it and then tight it back after.
Captm you said that the only way to get grease to come out at the joint is to loosen the pin/bolt. Could you keep the bolt a little loose? Looking at the pin it is obviously anti rotational by its design. How is the pin retained? Bolt, nut or cotter pin ?
 
   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #24  
When you look at the moving parts when activating the hydraulics, it is important that that the grease gets to those surfaces. The end of the pin is usually stationary and therefore not as important to have grease. The surface that moves on the pin is important. Post #7 shows where the grease should ooze out between the two pieces of the joint.
Now that we have covered greasing 101 we should also cover the idea not all greases are equal. Typical moly grease is Thin in consistency. Thinner grease more ooze out the pins, the more you need to grease if you are working the loader or implement or what you have greased. Highly suggest using tacky type grease to hold in the pin provide better lubricity. Keep the grease in the bearing journal longer you can go between greasing the zerks. Might be expensive to purchase tacky grease but it’s much cheaper than the alternative. Cheap grease is just that cheap and it gets on every surface but the one you want it on. If your working your loader or implement grease it frequently. Through the years and many auctions I steer clear of equipment that has not seen a grease gun. Metal to metal surfaces wear quick and are dangerous. Get disciplined and grease your equipment with your preferred grease and it will last a lifetime.
 
   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #25  
Cheap grease is just that cheap and it gets on every surface but the one you want it on.
I dunno. I get expensive grease all over the place too.
 
   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #26  
Now that we have covered greasing 101 we should also cover the idea not all greases are equal. Typical moly grease is Thin in consistency. Thinner grease more ooze out the pins, the more you need to grease if you are working the loader or implement or what you have greased. Highly suggest using tacky type grease to hold in the pin provide better lubricity. Keep the grease in the bearing journal longer you can go between greasing the zerks. Might be expensive to purchase tacky grease but it’s much cheaper than the alternative. Cheap grease is just that cheap and it gets on every surface but the one you want it on. If your working your loader or implement grease it frequently. Through the years and many auctions I steer clear of equipment that has not seen a grease gun. Metal to metal surfaces wear quick and are dangerous. Get disciplined and grease your equipment with your preferred grease and it will last a lifetime.
Lighter viscosity grease will migrate out of its point of lubrication. Either from load or heat leaving the journal area. Whereas heavy viscosity grease “tacky” will take more time to migrate out. Granted it will move but it will also protect the journal much better. From lighter grease I have had it migrate 3” radius plus away from the lubricated pin. Who likes this oozing grease that is not in it’s needed lubrication point in the journal.
 
   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #27  
The recessed zerks on my FEL do present added problems. The LockNLube does not fit well. Actually - I've taken the LNL nozzle off my grease gun. Gone back to the standard fitting. Get tired of scraping grease out of the recess.
LNL has gotten stupid priced IMO. I prefer the Macnaught (think I spelled that right). LNL has become 'real proud' of their products.
 
   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #28  
I didnt care for the LockNLube. Didnt fit most of the zerk holes, and didn't always get a good, tight, seal on the zerks so grease would squish out at the zerk.. I went with these instead. More manual, but the fit and is very tight when tighten so, and easy to remove by untightening. They fit every zerk hole. Easy on the thumbs as well :)


I'm trying to figure out why the guy in the video is smearing grease on the rotating lock collar. Why on earth would you want to do that?
 
   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #29  
Rodneyn,

Please be careful about generalities.

Not trying to get into argument over grease types, only want to provide readers with some information about what I am familiar with, why I have chosen it, and why each reader should spend time educating themselves on what they use for lubricating their equipment with, given their environment they use it in, so they maintain their equipment to the best of their ability. Grease, even expensive grease, is one of the least expensive fluids you will add to your equipment on a daily basis or over its lifetime. When I spend $20, $40, $60K on a tractor and implements, I want them to last as long as possible so I use the best grease type for my work environment. Have a look at the attached spec for the "Moly" grease I have used for the past decade on the M59. I figure I use about $1 worth of grease every 8 working hours on equipment that just consumed $75 worth of $5/ gallon diesel. Pretty low cost in the big picture.

The Moly I use is intended for the following applications and has the following properties. Underlines are mine.

Hope this is useful to TBN readers.

  • Off-road equipment used in the mining industry, particularly to lubricate slow-moving plain and rolling element bearings ( bearing surfaces ) under severe conditions of very high loads, shock loading and vibrating or oscillating conditions.
  • Heavy duty construction, earth moving, mobile and stationery equipment, especially in those applications operating under very high loads, shock loading and vibrating or oscillating conditions.
  • Some heavy duty applications that are difficult to access, and for which long lubrication intervals are required.
    • Excellent extreme pressure and antiwear properties protect heavily loaded or shock-loaded bearings from wear, extending equipment life.
    • Solids, including molybdenum disulfide, provide an additional measure of residual lubrication and protect metal surfaces against wear in applications where vibrating or oscillating movement tends to squeeze out the grease from between metal surfaces.
    • Lithium complex soap thickener ensures a high dropping point, which means that the grease can be used at higher temperatures in severe service applications (operating temperature range is from –10°C to +150°C), and also confers excellent mechanical stability so that the grease structure does not break down in service.
    • High base oil viscosity ensures a good oil film thickness is maintained even under severe high-temperature conditions, protecting components against wear.
    • Excellent water resistance means that the grease stays in place and is not washed or sprayed off in wet conditions, reducing the need for frequent re-application.
 

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   / Where is the grease supposed to ooze out from when greasing loader? #30  
I'm trying to figure out why the guy in the video is smearing grease on the rotating lock collar. Why on earth would you want to do that?
I mean, it says in the video "Even if there is grease in your hand...you can connect and release fittings quickly" - Demonstrating that your fingers dont slip even when coated in grease, unlike the lever versions that you squeeze with your thumb.
 

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