Which antique tractor?

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I have located a MF150 that appears to be in good condition. Going to look later this week! I'll post some pics.

Any special things to look for, unique to MF150s, when checking this out?
 
   / Which antique tractor? #32  
keving said:
I have located a MF150 that appears to be in good condition. Going to look later this week! I'll post some pics.

Any special things to look for, unique to MF150s, when checking this out?

Check under the bellhousing. You SHOULD find a couple weep holes with the ends of cotter pins sticking through. (The cotter pins are there to keep the holes free of dirt and obstructions) They might show a trace of oil. Not unusual. If there's excessive amounts of oil, you may have a problem. On older Perkins diesels, the oil pan gaskets can leak, resulting in some oil spilling into the bellhousing. A relatively easy fix. (New pan gaskets) Very seldom is it a rear main seal, but that is possible. (about 1 out of 100 times you see engine oil at the bellhousing....) Transmission oil may be a sign of input shaft seal failing, or, if the tractor has MultiPower, the seals failing on that.

Check front axle pivot. ESPECIALLY so if the tractor has had a loader, that pivot can wear. It's not difficult or terribly expensive to fix, but should be noted.

Check for smooth operation of the 3-point lift.

Beyond that, just look at all the usual suspects on ANY used tractor.
 
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Farmwithjunk said:
Check under the bellhousing. You SHOULD find a couple weep holes with the ends of cotter pins sticking through. (The cotter pins are there to keep the holes free of dirt and obstructions) They might show a trace of oil. Not unusual. If there's excessive amounts of oil, you may have a problem. On older Perkins diesels, the oil pan gaskets can leak, resulting in some oil spilling into the bellhousing. A relatively easy fix. (New pan gaskets) Very seldom is it a rear main seal, but that is possible. (about 1 out of 100 times you see engine oil at the bellhousing....) Transmission oil may be a sign of input shaft seal failing, or, if the tractor has MultiPower, the seals failing on that.

Check front axle pivot. ESPECIALLY so if the tractor has had a loader, that pivot can wear. It's not difficult or terribly expensive to fix, but should be noted.

Check for smooth operation of the 3-point lift.

Beyond that, just look at all the usual suspects on ANY used tractor.

Thanks for the info. I will check it out.

I have also found a MF35 Turf Special. It looks like a interesting tractor with mowing attachment and the tractor is wider and lower for mowing ditch banks and hills. I've not seen any pics of this particular tractor but I will be looking at it on Monday.

Thanks again for all your input!
 
   / Which antique tractor? #34  
Good luck. post pics if ya get it.

soundguy
 
   / Which antique tractor? #35  
I like the Ford Jubilee myself 1953 just got mine put back together found radiator,exhast manafold and belts and hoses tune up kit coil all within a day had a great time putting it all together with my 15 year old son every bolt out no problem and all bolted back together no problem it runs like a charm love it not to big not to small also own 1971 economy and 1976 Kubota 4wd

neohiodad
 
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I have a friend that has a fairly good looking MF165 with loader that was given to him by a local farmer. The 3PH is not working and the PS seems to be having issues. The loader is yellow and has a MF tag on it. It's a diesel, about 75% rubber on front and rear. Is the loader worth anything separate from the tractor (is there a market? and how much $ ?) I really don't need the loader. I understand that this is a great, strong tractor and I'm trying to come up with a price to offer. Any suggestions as to a price range? I'm going to get some pics soon.
 
   / Which antique tractor? #37  
I have a friend that has a fairly good looking MF165 with loader that was given to him by a local farmer. The 3PH is not working and the PS seems to be having issues. The loader is yellow and has a MF tag on it. It's a diesel, about 75% rubber on front and rear. Is the loader worth anything separate from the tractor (is there a market? and how much $ ?) I really don't need the loader. I understand that this is a great, strong tractor and I'm trying to come up with a price to offer. Any suggestions as to a price range? I'm going to get some pics soon.


Sounds like an MF "industrial" loader. Does it have it's own hydraulic pump? (front mounted?) It'll fit a list of Massey tractors. Worth anywhere from $500 to $1500+ depending on who's buying. If I was selling, I wouldn't part with it for under $1200.

Power steering "issues" could be a number of things. USUALLY 150/165/175 PS issues are a simple adjustment problem.

Lift could be anywhere from minor adjustment to pump rebuild.....

With "unknown" issues, but good running engine/working tranny, the tractor would be worth $3500+. Get everything working, $4500 to $6000, depending on overall condition.
 
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Here's my new MF165. It was bought in late 1973 or early 1974 and owned by the same farm. My plan is to sell the loader and give that money to my friend that gave me this tractor!

I have the original manual with the maintenance records up to 1999. It had a new seat in 1977. Looks like I need a new one :D

Power steering is fine. Just need to "bump" steer. I'm going to have to learn to make some adjustments. I'm going to get the 3PH working and then go through all the fluids. What else should I be checking for?
 

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   / Which antique tractor? #39  
Post (or PM me) the serial # of the tractor. It's on a small plate below the dash, right in front of the shifters. With that, we can determine the year (and approx month) of manufacture.

I see why the 3-point hitch doesn't work. A relatively simple fix that will ALMOST take care of itself when you remove the loader. The point where the hydraulics are attached to the rear end housing (under the seat) should have an isolator valve (loader OR 3-point) or, once the loader is removed, a plate that blacks off the hydraulic ports going to the loader. An isolator valve allows the flow going to the loader circuit to be shut off, directing flow to the hitch. The "blank plates" appear on ebay quite frequently. If you need, I can furnish you with a Massey Ferguson part # for the plate. (If possible, post a close up of the point where the hydraulic lines attach to the rear end....That MAY be an isolator valve.)

Does the MultiPower work?

Things to check. Look under the transmission and bellhousing. THere should be 2 weep holes. There should be cotter pins sticking through them. (They keep the holes from clogging with dirt) Is there any oil showing at these holes? Significant amounts? Transmission oil or engine oil? If tranny oil, look to replace input shaft seal OR MultiPower seals. Engine oil? 99 times in 100, rear gaskets on the oil pan. VERY rarely the rear main seal.

If you have ANY electrical issues, (gauges, charging, ect) replace the oil pressure switch attached to the oil pressure gauge. It detects oil pressure upon start-up, switching on power to most of the electrical components. Any electrical issues are almost impossible to correct if this switch is being "difficult". It's available through TISCO as well as MF/AGCO. I can't count the number of times I've seen people trying to diagnose and repair elect. troubles where this switch was causing the problems.

Since this tractor has had a loader, good chance you'll need to look at the front axle pivot point. It has a replaceable bushing. It tends to wear (excessively) with loader use. When worn, it will cause a very sloppy steering and handling.

Get a service manual and parts manual to go with the owners manual. You'll be WAY ahead of the curve. Parts manual is valuable even without part #'s. It shows exploded views of sub-assemblies. Owners manual is very limited and vague. You NEED the service manual.

Contact BIG DEAN AUSTIN. http://hometown.aol.com/bigdean62/index.html Get his CD on service and repairs to the 100 series MF's. It's the single greatest piece of information you'll get on these tractors.
 
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FWJ,

Here's some photos showing the close ups under the seat and the weep holes under the tractor. I also took a photo of approximately 18 hours of "drips". There is a photo showing the serial number. Please let me know if there is a better angle for a photo and I'll get it.

Thanks so much for your direction.

I'm ordering the disc too!
 

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