which chain saw?

   / which chain saw? #21  
I don't know much at all about Huskies.

I do know I went through four or five inexpensive chainsaws before I bought a 20" Stihl Farm Pro.

There is no comparison. It is like buying a CUT from Deere and comparing it to a lawn tractor from Sears.
 
   / which chain saw? #22  
Hiya Rob -

In the strictest sense of the term, a "climbing saw" would be one that is specifically designed for use in a tree. Some typical features would include a top handle (allowing for one-handed use), built-in lanyard ring, relatively small size (around 35 cc.), light weight (8-9 lbs.), 14" bar and 3/8" low-profile chain. Typical models would be the Stihl MS200T/020T, MS191T, and MS192T, Husqvarna 335 (junk in my opinion, but not because it's a Husky), and the Echo CS-300 and CS-340. I would say that by far the most widely used and highly regarded saw in this category is the Stihl MS200T, which replaced the 020T.

That said, a more general interpretation of the term "climbing saw" would include any make and model of chain saw that you might see a tree guy using in a tree. For many years, I climbed exclusively with a Husky 242XP with an 18" bar and .325 chain. What a little pocket rocket that thing was, OMG. The 18" bar allowed for extra "reach", and of course, capacity. I now climb with the MS192T. (As I've mentioned in other threads, my saw collection was significantly reduced when some cretin stole my Stihl 046, 036, MS200T and the Husky 242, along with my Echo PB750 backpack blower and Echo PPT-2400 power pole pruner). I'll replace the Husky 242 with the 346 (also with an 18" bar and .325 chain), and eventually get another MS200T (great saw).

I know of guys who regularly climb with larger saws than that, but they're in the minority. One guy told me he climbs with a Stihl 036, and I've heard of Husky 357's, Stihl 028's, and others. The biggest saw I ever had to use in a tree was my Stihl 066 with a 42" bar, on two different occasions. One involved a large silver maple with a 21' circumference, with leaders that were trees themselves; the other, a huge dead ash. Not recommended; I'm lucky I still have my legs.

As for the term "limbing saw": that covers a lot more ground, but to me, it just means any saw that you'd feel comfortable with (on the ground) for cutting up smaller stuff, or cutting branches off the trunks of trees; hence, "limbing". Examples might be the Stihl MS260, 280/028, 290/029, maybe your MS310, or even an MS361. In Husky, it might be a 346XP, 359, 365, or 357XP. Of course there are many, many more makes and models that could be called "limbing saws".

To specifically answer your question about what saw might complement your current "big dog", the 310, I'd say maybe the MS260 Pro, MS210 if you want to go a little smaller, a top-handled Echo maybe just for kicks, or any other Stihl, Husky or Echo that floats your boat. I pretty much just look at the specs and see what seems to make sense for what you need a saw to do. That's how I ended up getting my first Stihl 066. One look at the specs (91.6 cc, 7.0 bhp, 16.3 lbs.), and I said to myself "yeah, that'll do some damage". And it does. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

That's it for now - take care, John
 
   / which chain saw? #23  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I understand Jonsered and Husky are almost identical saws, both owened by Electrolux. Doesn't that suck!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>

Yes they are. Mechanical parts interchange mostly.
Mostly the plastic is the differance.

And Electrolux owns Singer(?) which owns either Poulin or is it Still?

And the Jonserad/Husky small saws (consumer type) are a sub contracted or purchased item. (might be Poulin)

Confusing?

It is getting so that you never know who is the actual mfg anymore. Or who actually owns what.

Just look at power tools. Skill is owned by Bosh, Black and Decker owns Dewalt (and most is made in China).
Check out all the brands that Stanly Tool owns. Awsome list.
 
   / which chain saw? #24  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Jamie, you couldn't own a better array of saws than those three. Man, you've hit a grand slam, tape-measure home run. Add a climbing saw to that trio, and you're in the tree business. Nicely done!)</font>

John,

Thanks!!! I very happy I own all three saws though I have to say more often then not the 036 is the odd man out. I suppose if it had to only one it would be the 036. But as it is I grab the 026 for the little stuff and for the big stuff the 044 cannot be denied. The first time I used that saw I thought "this is all the saw I ever want to use", I seemed to have gotten used to it. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Regards, Jamie
 
   / which chain saw? #25  
Thanks for the lesson John,
The reason I'm asking is I was eyeballing an 017 or MS191T and didn't know which would be better.

Obviosly, your big dog is bigger than mine so I thought my little dog should be smaller in comparison as well. Remember, I'm just a little guy...(6' ..191lbs.. built kinda like Joe Lewis) but I'm the runt of the litter. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Anyway, are there smaller climbing saws than those two that will work?

One more question...I wanted to upgrade to a MS361 for my big dog but only saw some 036 saws, not the MS361. Would that be an upgrade because you said the MS361 is the way to go?
 
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#26  
I hear that there is alot of MS361 is the way to go!
 
   / which chain saw? #27  
Hi Rob -

It's a really tough call on what to recommend for your smaller saw. I keep coming back to the 026 Pro - it's just so light and easy to handle that I don't think you'd need anything smaller. The 025/MS250 is really sweet too though, and cheaper - just won't last as long. The 017 is just really small - I don't think you need to go that small.

I don't think you want a top-handled "climbing" type saw for "utility" type ground work, they're really best suited for up in a tree. To me, a conventional (two-handed) saw if better for use on the ground - probably a little safer, too.

I'd avoid the 191T like the plague anyway, it's the only Stihl I've ever heard of that was considered a "lemon".

Lastly, the 036 was every bit as good as the 361, if not a little better (non-CARB carburetion?). If you can find a nice low-hours 036, that'd be a winner.

Hope this helps, John
 
   / which chain saw? #28  
Hey grreat advice as always John.
BTW, just got the MS310 and it looks pretty good. I'll try it tomorrow on some giant eucalyptus that fell on my shed during the wind storms down here (Santa Ana's)
Thanks,
 
   / which chain saw? #29  
I have a Homelite 14 '' chain saw and a Stihl trimmer

I've probably had the saw for over 30 years.
Had to repair the clutch once and it's beginning to need a new chain sprocket.
Replaced the chain bar once.
Not bad in 30 years.
The carb adjustment screws have never been touched.
It's been a real good little saw but I can't say the same for the Homelite trimmer. That was the worst piece of junk trimmer I ever owned.

The Stihl trimmer is the best one I've ever owned.




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