Which is better for the long run.

   / Which is better for the long run. #31  
One hour on even the newest kubota and my leg and hip is hurting. Simply put there is no getting use to it for me.

As stated I don稚 like it it痴 uncomfortable and most people I know that have used both prefer the dual pedal. Why would anyone want to get used to it, should I go back to manual steering rather than power? You know I知 sure I would get used to it!

I personally only know a few who like two separate pedals, pushing one forward to go forward, and the one right beside it forward to go backward? I also know a few that don't, including me. Sorry about your bad leg and hip. What in the world does going back to manual steering have to do with ones preference of a single or twin control pedal(s)?
 
   / Which is better for the long run. #32  
I have used both types of pedals, and truthfully you can adapt to either as required by your equipment. As a preference, I much like the two pedal system and so does my wife.

I had never before considered the single pedal was a painful experience for some people. So this discussion has been both enlightening and informative.
 
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   / Which is better for the long run. #33  
I personally only know a few who like two separate pedals, pushing one forward to go forward, and the one right beside it forward to go backward? I also know a few that don't, including me. Sorry about your bad leg and hip. What in the world does going back to manual steering have to do with ones preference of a single or twin control pedal(s)?

That’s more for those who always say oh it’s alright you’ll get used to it!
Sure I can get used to using manual steering all day but why would I when something better is available.
 
   / Which is better for the long run. #34  
For people who have problems with their feet and back, the pedal is a non-starter and the dual pedal not much better. Cruise control only helps on long straight sections - not too common in tractor operations.

I'm thinking that those folks with foot and back problems should look into the fingertip operated shuttle shift/syncro glide shift transmissions instead of HST. A lot of new buyers just say, "It has to be HST" without actually looking at what the option offers. Shuttle shift has grown up. It's a nice smooth transmission, easy to use, loader friendly, clutchless F/R, has built in cruise control via the throttle, extremely reliable, more ratios available, more efficient, and is the less expensive new tractor option. What's not to like?

I've had several now. There are several types of shuttle shifts; all slightly different and worth a look.
rScotty
My left leg is the bad one so clutch bugs the **** out of me but these power shuttles with a declutch button are **** nice. I actually like the heel toe treadle because I can just leave my foot on it and rock.
 
   / Which is better for the long run. #35  
rScotty, right about the shuttle. I have a bad right foot. Brakes not a problem, but I wouldn't want to have to push a peddle most of the time. Even my old lawn mower has a hand operated HST. I have a manual shuttle and do have to use the clutch to shift, But I have a good left foot. I would love a power shuttle, but I am not sure what compact tractors have them. I know a lot of tractors over 55 hp have them. I also have a friend with bad knees and he has a problem mowing with his Kubota for long periods. It is a few years old and no cruise control. He is looking at a newer and bigger tractor. The only reason that he hasn't already got a new Kubota is because of the peddle.
I wonder how hard a hand control would be to fab up with electronic HST you really are just moving sensors not really levers on the transmission
 
   / Which is better for the long run. #36  
I had a Kubota for 10 years and now a JD for going on 2 years. Either pedal system is fine by me. The JD system is easier, but it took me 50 hours to where I remembered which pedal was which. The Kubota was more instinctive. I rarely used the back pedal but instead put my foot under the forward pedal and lifted up to reverse.
 
   / Which is better for the long run. #37  
I have a treadle on my l4740 and twin pedals on my x758 and I have gotten used to both systems and don't prefer one over the other.
 
   / Which is better for the long run. #38  
I had a Ford/NH with two pedals. I liked it. I went to buy a new one after I sold my older on. The dealer sold NH and Kubota.
He talked me out of the NH, as he said they were not the same tractor as I had before, which I was very happy with.

I too was looking at the L3901 and the Workmaster 40.
I ended up going kubota and very quickly got used to the one pedal. I have a couple different back problems but the pedal does not bother those. There were things I liked better about my Ford, but also things I like better about the Kubota.
 
   / Which is better for the long run. #39  
The nice thing about HST with some tractors is it's electronic, not shafts or cables. That means you could move/ modify it to make it hand controlled. For example the cruise control on my Kubota could easily be made so the tractor could go both directions. It would require changing some parts but it could be done if someone didn't have the use of their right foot. With shuttle it would be more complicated because, at least on mine, you would have to idle down the motor and then change directions. You wouldn't want to control the idle with one hand and the direction with the other (unless you like holding the steering wheel with your knee). But anything is possible.
 
   / Which is better for the long run. #40  
Might work if you set the speed way slower than needed for high stuff and just live with the snails pace. Seems to me unless I am overpowering things with a tractor twice the size the speed needs to be adjusted as you go. I have less of a hard time finding a workable gear in a manual gearbox that will hold pot speed in uneven fields than I do with hats and cruise.

I use cruise all the time on my JD4320 when mowing. I set the speed for the max speed I can go and have load match turned on so it will slow the tractor down to keep the rpms at 540. in extremely heavy stuff it will slow to a crawl and then speed up as it gets easier. I can also bump the speed up and down with the cruise buttons by about .25mph per push of the button. If I need to reverse just hit the reverse pedal, back up, and then take back off and hit the resume cruise button and off I go.
 

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