Which is stronger?

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CraigStu

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A new to me 2018 KX71-3 mini excavator. Say I am trying to pull a stump out. I jam the bucket down behind it and now have several choices. I can; 1- curl the bucket, 2- pull the arm toward me, 3- lift the boom (after curling the bucket), or back up the excavator. Is there a general rule as to which option has the best chance of pulling the stump?
 
   / Which is stronger? #2  
Bucket curl is going to have the most force. You may have to dig around the stump some to get it free enough to pull out, depending on the size.
 
   / Which is stronger? #3  
True the curl is going to have the most force but what I do is plan ahead and leave the stump about 3 or 4 feet high that gives you a lot more leverage to break the stump over, sometimes that's all it takes.
 
   / Which is stronger? #4  
I agree...curl as well. Having owned and run a 48,000 lb track hoe my feeling is you won't do a lot of stump digging with that little mini ex. Of course you can dig them but don't get in a hurry. You certainly won't have much luck with boom, arm or travel functions trying to force a stump out of the ground. Also, most of my stump digging was yellow pine and sweet gum. Probably the two hardest stumps to dig in our area.
 
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#5  
Thanks guys. Yeah, the stump pulling was just an example to illustrate my question. Good to know bucket curl is the strongest. I kind of thought that was what it seemed but now I know. Thanks.
 
   / Which is stronger? #6  
Since that was an example I don't feel bad about giving unsolicited advice now :). When just digging, it is more efficient to coordinate the bucket, boom, and stick together to take a "strip" of soil. You can get more product in the bucket that way, and it's easier on the equipment. If you just bury your bucket and try to curl a load out of the ground your machine many not have the power to curl a big chunk up all at once, and even if it does it will take you more time per scoop that way.
 
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#7  
Thanks L, I have rented similar though slightly larger mini-ex's 4 times prior to buying this used one. So I am slowly learning and the info in this thread is very helpful.
 
   / Which is stronger? #8  
Go to Rhinox (especially if you have a quick coupler) or elsewhere and buy a ripper tooth, it will make taking out the stump easier.

I got one coming for my L3540HSTC/BH92. Rhinox didn't have a quick coupler for me so I have a machinist making me one.
 
   / Which is stronger? #9  
If the hole or ground around the stump is fairly "clean" you can augment your pop out force by forcing the boom down and curling simultaneously. Its prying.
 
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Personally, I think it's a bad practice to travel with bucket engaged in such a way as you describe. You could possibly over pressurize the hydraulics and blow hoses or o-rings. Hydraulics have pressure valves to by-pass and prevent this, but they are not in the equation under these circumstances. This is my non-professional understanding, at least.
 

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