WHY all this complexity?

   / WHY all this complexity? #131  
   / WHY all this complexity? #132  
:laughing: :laughing: My friend told me the new truck stickered at 55K....have to wonder how many of the "younger set" can afford the payments on one of those....:laughing:

Depends on where you are. Energy sector workers, oil, gas, coal, etc., have more money than they know what to do with in many cases. Most are young guys too. Early 20s and whatnot. I know of a boy who not long ago paid cash on a new Silverado 2500HD diesel, had it "tuned", cracked the Allison transmission in two, and junked the whole truck and went and got another new one... (paid cash for it too)
 
   / WHY all this complexity? #133  
I'm late to this party, sorry, and haven't read the rest of the thread yet but this post reminded me of a near death episode for a couple here last year:

Couple trapped in keyless car for 13 hours - National - NZ Herald News

Same happened to a California High School student napping in her car... only she died... could not get out of the car because once the remote lock feature is activated it can only be opened by the remote key fob or a key in the outside door lock... nothing a person inside can do except try to break out a window... then there is the added problem if the battery goes dead...

The lock feature did what is was intended... that is to thwart thieves... they can pop a window but still can't open the door....

No Escape: California Family Sues BMW After Teen Dies in Locked Car - NBC News
 
   / WHY all this complexity? #134  
Anyone heard of a tire iron? Use it to break glass, if your head isn't hard enough?! Improvise, adapt, overcome... Clint, Heartbreak Ridge.:duh:
 
   / WHY all this complexity? #135  
Correct me if I am wrong ..... but don't all new cars now need a waY to open the trunk latchfrom inside.........so then remove the rear seat )or fold down on many cars..............and go out the trunk .
 
   / WHY all this complexity? #136  
Didn't toyota have a problem maybe 10 years ago where a wire that controlled the power locks/windows would chafe and short out & blow the fuse for that circuit effectively locking occupants in the car? Even the "manual" inside lock buttons were electrical. This was well before the "no key" era.
 
   / WHY all this complexity? #137  
Buy your family these.

Home - Resqme

Not expensive, and they work well. I've used one to get into a car - unusually hot Spring day here, and I stopped for a late lunch at a quiet plaza. A lady approached me for help, as she'd locked her keys+cell phone in her car, windows up, and her 4 y/o son strapped into a carseat in the middle of the back seat.

Coat hanger wasn't working fast enough, so with her permission I broke the passenger side front window. The boy was fine, and happy to see his Mom.

Recent posts are tragic examples of Too Much Technology and/or Bad Design.

I know car-jacking is common in some parts of the USA. That said, unless you have bulletproof windows, what is to be gained from locking somebody inside your car ?

Rgds, D.
 
   / WHY all this complexity? #138  
The idea is it would look strange to see someone crawling in and out of a high end car and easier to apprehend when doors can't be open...

BMW and other higher end cars were being stolen in Europe never to return... the companies made limiting theft a top priority to the point where flatbedding is just about the only viable option.
 
   / WHY all this complexity? #139  
The idea is it would look strange to see someone crawling in and out of a high end car and easier to apprehend when doors can't be open...

BMW and other higher end cars were being stolen in Europe never to return... the companies made limiting theft a top priority to the point where flatbedding is just about the only viable option.

Limited deterrent value coupled with increased public safety risk likely led to that design being dropped.

Any competent thief that gained access to the interior of the car would be driving away.

Hooking up cars has long been praticed. I remember reading an account in Car&Driver many years ago about a rare Porsche being stolen from a very secure high-walled compound.

They used a crane.

Rgds, D.
 
   / WHY all this complexity? #140  
The rampant theft rate of high end European cars has been curtailed... even the newer cars like a Toyota have chipped keys making a shaved key problematic...

Don't know what the answer is except as a person dealing with auto theft I was surprised to see just how easy it was to steal older Japanese cars...
 

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