Why do Men act like this?

Henro · Jan 31, 2004

Unfortunately, seems like everytime I log into this forum to learn a little more about this 'hobby', more often than not all I get is a bunch of overblown testosterone comments from folks who are attempting to prove how smart they are (clue: 99% of the time this reveals your real ignorance). Why don't we all learn from the ultimate gentleman BIRD who never gives his opinion with first stating " this is only my opinion". 

Have to tell you...and I just started reading this thread so bear with me if it has already been said...

You sure sound like one of the guys to me!

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Now I'm off to read the rest of the thread! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Theowegian · Jan 31, 2004

RET:

I gentlemanly, politely disagree with you, RET in the most humble way I can.

Of all the forums I visit, this one is the most polite. Sorry, that you see the forum in this way, but I do see it differently.

However, I will certainly try harder to be especially polite when stating my humble opinion.

my apologies,
dwight

wroughtn_harv · Jan 31, 2004

( I'll take your advice from now on...stay away from 'related topics' as much as possible....and don't let the know-it-alls get under my skin. )

I wouldn't go that far!

Related Topics is kinda sorta like the cafe if TBN is the town.

It's where we get to rub elbows, talk shop, rub each other write or wrong, and go back to work.

Heck, even Bird hangs out here more'n he needs too, mostly for grins I bet. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BIGUN · Jan 31, 2004

( There is so much money wasted on this crap/games they play in corporate America,it adds not 1 cent of value to the business. But you have to play along when they sign your pay check. )

I get the feeling almost everyone from top to bottom feels this way, but no one wants to be the first to stand up and say it. There is a common source of all this nonsense because when you talk to people who work for different corps they have all heard the exact same thing. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Kind of scary.

Old_Hickory · Feb 1, 2004

( but no one wants to be the first to stand up and say it. )
Not too many workers in my ranks have been afraid to voice there opinions (the operators) the people that do the wrench turning and run the process. It generally falls on deaf ears when anything is said,we tell them it is is a bunch of crap,and laugh about it ,but you go ahead and do it,because they are the ones in charge and they sign the paychecks.It is not as bad at my location since we have been divested and the same corporate giant does not now own us,when we were under the "big umbrella" it was always something new to do. Amazing.

Old_Hickory · Feb 1, 2004

The consultants.
That is another joke.

NY_Yankees_Fan · Feb 1, 2004

Corporate America /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I have worked for the same company for 25 years. Recently the board hired a new CEO from the outside, all others have been home grown or related to the founders of the company. Since the new guy came in he has started lay offs, 1st for our company, closed offices another first. Our 401K plan, the dollar for dollar company match for the first 4% each pay check is now held off for 15 months and then paid in one payment, we now loose all the interest on the 4% match, if you put in the max of $13K that is a few $$. Stock options for bonuses are gone, stock matching programs are gone, we are now paying a greater share of our health coverage, raises are in the 0-4% range. We went from 26 pay checks to 24 per year. You would think from reading this that we are not making any profits and this guy is trying to save the company. WRONG, we have made a profit for our share holders every year!

I just hope the board realizes this guy has screwed the 12,000 employees of the company. Then again, look at the poor people that worked for Enron!

Corporate life S*cks!

Regarding 401K plans

Does your company offer one?
Do they match part of your contribution?
If so, how much? do they pay it each pay check or make you wait? My company says we are one of the few to match and pay each check. I think it is a bunch of you know what. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Thanks for your ear /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BillyP · Feb 1, 2004

Does your company offer one?
Do they match part of your contribution?


The place my wife works has a 401K. The % is the same as yours. It's held out of each paycheck but I think it's only paid in once per quarter.

Bird · Feb 1, 2004

( We went from 26 pay checks to 24 per year. )

/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifThe CFO at the company my youngest daughter works for decided a couple of weeks before Christmas to change from paying every two weeks to the twice a month plan (something to do with their budget and the extra day in a leap year /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif). My daughter was telling me about it because it meant that she had to work some long hours during that last week of the year changing all the personnel records in their computer system. I told her it sounded as if her CFO lost his mind. But within a week of all the employees learning of the new plan, and a near revolt, the CEO changed it back /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif, which pleased everyone, including my daughter, even though it meant long hours for another week to get everything changed back in the computer again. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

BIGUN · Feb 1, 2004

Bird,

For many years my Dad worked for a county sheriffs office in Texas and he got paid 12 checks a year. Got to work 6 days a week too. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif