Why we can't reach the speed of light?

[Harv]

Re: Why we can\'t reach the speed of light?

<font color=blue>the post is about a year old</font color=blue>

Actually, it's just a couple of days old. You see that's when there was a tear in the space-time continuum, and for a brief time two days ago and a year ago intersected. And by the way -- that's also how wroughtn_harv went from New Member to Gold in one day. /w3tcompact/icons/grin.gif

 

[oombala]

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yes patrick i am aware how old the thread is, havent been able to sleep so i have been readin all the threads that seem interesting. i was just bein a smart aleck dontcha know....cant everything so seriously guys.

 

[Egon]

Re: Why we can\'t reach the speed of light?

Patrick:
What is Dark And what is Light in reference to the spectrum that can be observed.

Yes, I'm back, after a trip cross Canada for a wedding and several weeks out at the "Farm" attempting to cultivate rocks and evade hungry insects.
Egon

 

[Mike_Dumond]

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Egon, I've personally found it easier to evade the rocks and cultivate the insects. I've got a nice 'crop' this year. We have horse flies, black flies, (Maine's state bird), no see-ums and a new breed where two of them can carry you away. We are working one a strain that will be able to open screen doors. Free shipping to anyone who wants some.

 

[patrickg]

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Harv, I don't know about all the pseudo-science/science fiction being confused with reality but I have seen repeated examples of what is probably something like a black hole at work. Seems that socks are always dissapearing from around here, frequently in the laundry process which has no visible means of destroying/hiding them but the number of wire coat hangers in a nearby closet seems to always be increasing without a good explanation. Like Sherlock Holmes, I don't easily believe in coincidence and expect the two repeating phenomena to be related, perhaps causal.

I haven't had time to investigate thoroughly to determine the neccessary and sufficient conditions required to initiate this process or even to just measure conversion ratios to see if mass + energy of socks equals mass + energy of hangers which would be strong, if only circumstantial, evidence of the linkage.

Don't know how light or SOL would figure into this but the new washer I got my mom is a front loader with an exceptionally fast spin cycle so evidently we are getting much closer to the SOL than with previous technology. It is usually dark inside the washer during spin and in the closet too so maybe this is a dark related rather than light related phenomena. Don't know how heat would enter into it since it usually runs on warm wash with cold rinses.

Maybe more experienced investigators can shed some light on this topic.

Patrick

 

[patrickg]

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OOMBALA, Gee, I didn't know I had performed such a public service when I instigated this thread. Insomnia treatment, without a prescription, safe, fast, and effective OR maybe not if you made it all the way through. I just threw down a gauntlet, stirred the pot, and braced for collision. Hope you enjoyed the chatter.

The recent stuff I mentioned here regarding time travel might resurect the enthusiasm previously demonstrated when everyone seemed to have a chance to enjoy the light (there I go again) hearted debate.

The essential claim I'm passing along regarding time travel is that even if you could make a time machine it wouldn't go back before its own creation. What has been demonstrated recently by researchers that is so interesting is short lived and not effective for gross objects. What has been demonstrated leads researchers to think it possible to temporaly (not temporarily) decouple/desynchronize two regions of space, say for example, inside a room (time machine) and outside the room (rest of the universe). Time in the machine could be arbitrarily slowed to a small fraction of the external rate. After, say, 50 years, you could go into the machine and things would be as they were 50 years ago but the rest of the universe wold have plunged ahead as usual. Alternatively you could have stayed in the machine for a while and let the rest of the universe speed along ahead of you, time wise. After what would be a "short" delay as measured/perceived in the machine, the real world would have aged an arbitrary amount depending on time dilution of machine and duration of your stay.

You could for example, to borrow from the cryogenic life extensionists, put someone with a disease or condition into the time box with slow time and the disease would progress only a few seconds or whatever while centuries could theoretically pass in the real world and a CURE be found or techiques for "fixing" the patient. Unfortunately it is likely that the "survivor" would be a total liability to the future culture and would be at best a nusicence, trapped there unable to return to their own time or make a meaningful contribution to the one where they were now trapped.

Hope you get some sleep.

Patrick

 

[MJB]

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I saw a program on PBS some time ago discussing the use of wormholes to create a time machine. The idea was that if you could create a stable wormhole (they did not discuss how you might actually do that) you could take one end of it aboard a space ship and fly around at nearly the SOL for some length of time. Since the rate of time passage is inversely proportional to the speed of travel the end of the wormhole on the spaceship would progress through time much slower than the end that was left stationary on earth. When you brought the two ends of the wormhole back together in the same space, but different time, you would essentially have a time machine with a fixed time differential. As you mentioned, this type of machine could never be used to travel back to a time before the machine was created. In addition, as long as the past end of the wormhole was stationary in space, it would again begin to travel through time at the normal rate. Thus the past end of the hole would have to remain in motion at the SOL in order to remain at the same point in time. Fascinating stuff./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[Charlie_Iliff]

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<font color=red>I haven't had time to investigate </font color=red>

Patrick: When you do get a chance to investigate the sock/black hole intersection phenomenon, you will undoubtedly notice that those disappearing are all left socks. Perhaps we should check with out southern hemisphere members to see if their losses are all right foot socks.

 

[PitbullMidwest]

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Charlie are you suggesting that there is an abundance of matched socks at the equator? This could perhaps explain the influx of cheap garments from that region .

 

[Charlie_Iliff]

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<font color=blue>"... there is an abundance of matched socks at the equator?"</font color=blue>

Something to explore - after all, the equator is the fastest moving area relative to the poles - much closer to the speed of light.