Why we can't reach the speed of light?

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glenmac,
Having just returned from Iowa (please excuse the 4 letter word) and Kansas Cities(both Kansas and Missouri) I noted that it was just about the same heat and humidity throughout the trip. Didn't get a chance to visit a black hole for a comparison so I have no empirical evidence to refute your assertion regarding the climate of Oklahoma and a black hole. Boy have I been spoiled by my years in So Cal with extensive travel in the ARID southwest and parts of northwest (east of costal ranges) Could always depend on enough insolation to power my prefered lifestyle from camper's rooftop PV panels. If there was enough sun to make it hot enough to want air conditioning there was enough sun to power the air conditioner (roof mounted evaporative). Not so, most of the time in Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin... It is hot enough to want AC at night (what a concept) but no sun to power it (bummer). I really don't like to run the propane powered generator to run the mech refrig roof mounted AC for hours on end (so I don't, 10-20 minutes to microwave something OK but not all night) but finding somewhere to plug into the grid was a good thing. It was good to return to cool nights (surprise surprise) I actually got under a sheet for the first time in months last night.

Semi-on-topic-comment: Isn't anyone just a little skeptical of any branch of science that can't describe and predict what will happen when three or more billiard/pool balls collide/interact (See multi-body problem) yet will freely theorize on what happened to all the contents of the universe in the first few femto seconds after the big bang? Think about it! You can theorize and postulate freely about something that can't be checked empirically but something like breaking a rack playing nine ball exceeds our analytical abilities.

Into triage? All problems (in theory) can be put in one of three categories: 1. Definitely solvable, 2. Definitely unable to be solved, and 3.Not sure, hasn't been proved either way, yet. For decades (centuries?) there was conjecture that there could always be a map drawn that couldn't be colored with just three colors and not have two adjacent "countries" the same color. Similarly it was universally agreed that there could be no map drawn that couldn't be colored with 5 colors. There were even closed mathematical proofs of both of these. The controversy was, of course, what about 4 colors? Many suspected that 4 colors could "do" any map but many a mathematician fried his brain in vain trying to prove it. No one ever drew a map that 4 colors couldn't do but only fairly recently after years of work a mathematician published a proof that has withstood peer review. This moved the problem from the 3rd category to the 2nd, a rare happening in non-trivial matters.

Similarly, I eagerly await such developments in many of the topics recently touched on (trampled?) in this thread. In the interim, speculate away, its cheap, relatively harmless, and can be fun.

Patrick
 
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Hey, I liked "Amazon Women on the Moon"! It was far better than "Mars Attacks".
 
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Just what type of gas are you talking about? So that I may innumerate on it, marginally of course. (I suspect Nos)
 
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But how did it rate against "Plan 9 From Outerspace"?

PitbullMidwaset
 
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JohnE, To Plaigerphrase (Between plaigerize and paraphrase) the great emancipator, The world will little note nor long remember oops err ah lessee , oh yeah, ahem, It is all together fitting and proper - - - to discuss "Mars Attacks", "Amazon Women on the Moon", etc. in a thread where faster than light travel is discussed, their being of equivalent scientific validity. I rated the movies about the same, an 8 on a scale of 10 for entertainment value. "Mission Mars" is the epitome of camp humor with out intending to be. It, like the bulldog that is so ugly it is cute, was presented as serious although low budget scifi but is a real hoot. Better than the remake of the "Blue Lagoon" with Brooke Shields where when the camera pulls back on the sailing ship with the searching uncle on board and there on the mizzen mast of this square rigger is a RADAR. "Mission Mars" has long handle underwear, tennis shoes, and full face shield motorcycle helmets (open at the throat), with what looks like Hoover vacuum cleaner hoses attached as SPACE SUITS. I won't spoil it for anyone by going further but you get the drift, I'm sure.

About RELATIVISTICS... Why didn't anyone bring up the twin paradox?

Patrick
 
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JonE, One does not innumerate, as one does not illiterate. One may be illiterate, as one may be innumerate. One does not imply the other but I suspect a strong positive correlation. My personal observation is that there are more innumerate folks (at least marginal innumeracy) than those of equivalent illiteracy.

Jumpin Jack Flash its a gas gas gas...

Soma gas was employed by minions of the Government in the 1932 novel by Aldous Huxley, "Brave New World", frightening to many but a good scifi read. Movie of the same name was OK, sort of kinda mostly in places but not THAT great.

"Universal happiness keeps the wheels steadily turning; truth and beauty can't."
Aldous Huxley
BRAVE NEW WORLD


Universal happiness can be enforced with Soma gas.

The followling material is not suitable for reading during, just prior, or just after eating. Strong parental guiidance is suggested, especially if the young reader has antisocial tendencies and a bent for electronics experimentation.
There are/were even better gasses in the US arsenal. One of my favorites was the anti-demonstration/riot gas nicknamed, OYAG (On your ass gas) it reacted on your carotid body (muscle protected by lower jaw bone that acts as pressure regulator for carotid artery which supplies blood to your brain). Exposure causes loss of blood pressure to brain. You faint but immediately recover when supine. Attempting to get up (place head above heart) causes you to faint. Don't recall any long term side effects but full info wasn't freely shared. It was used in combination with emetic (vomiting causing) gasses to force you to remove your gas mask and breathe more OYAG. I always thought the ultimate combination would have used OYAG and an emetic in conjunction with the II(Infrasonic Incapacitator, again slang not official title). Strong infrasonic signals at the control frequency of one of your major sphinctor muscles can cause it to "lose control". Sphinctors aren't shut tightly in a constant contraction as unlike the muscles that close a clam shell, continuous energy input would be required and the muscle fatigues. A contracted sphinctor is pulsed with a control signal causing it to basically twitch in the contracted position. Duty cycle is much lower and energy required is much lower. Disrupting that control signal with a strong signal suficiently near its natural frequency can cause loss of control of the muscle.

Ever marched? A band (marching with only soft drumming no lound music) or a military formation synchronized only by the sound of their own foot falls can be brought to total disaarray if another marching group with loud heels or louder drum but out of phase passes within ear shot. To recover, you can call a halt and start up again in phase with the disrupting group.

With many but not all human subjects, loss of bowl control is achieved soon after irradiation with a strong infrasonic signal of appropriate amplitude and frequency (frequency can be swept to accomodate individual differences).

Where does this leave us? On the ground, throwing up, messing our pants. Tough to carry on a protest march, practice civil disobedience, or demand your constitutional rights from a Government that might have a clear and present need to temporarily suspend them or declare martial law.

Not to worry, just more scifi......

Patrick
 
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Patrick...

What the heck are you talking about...

While on vacation, you didn't fall down and bump your head... did ya? /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif

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Patrick,
Go back a page. I did bring up the twins paradox, and train showing who simultaneous events aren't simultaneous in every time frame. Even posted links to them.
Todd
 
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OK you got me! I never did learn to add and I sure as h-e-doublehockeystick can't spell let alone follow your train of thought!/w3tcompact/icons/crazy.gif
 
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It must be a Jon/John thing. Everyone else got it! Oh well, maybe that unaccounted for period of time has now been accounted for... Alien abduction and the usual assorted mind robbing experiments. This sort of thing can be expected when you travel to Iowa faster than the speed of light. Alternatively I may have fallen out of a well and landed on my head. Of course, lightening could be at fault.

Patrick
 

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