Why you should change your oil

[Soundguy]

and I own troublesome Fords and very reliable GM's, but dont make the generalization "you Fordies dont get out much".

and I don't make comments that people that own gm are bad..e tc. I OWN a gm ( must be a karmic debt or something ).

IIRC, the 'don't get out much' comment was made re: an oil life monitor comment where someone said that you needed a gm to get an oil monitor, as if ford didn't have them. then the comment was made that the bowtie guys didn't get out much, perhaps, guessing here, about not knowing about ford oil life monitor..e tc.

I'm making a few guess there mind you.. but I think that's how the flow went.

 

[mikehaugen]

I am in the "everyone manufacturer has problems at some point" boat. I usually just shy away from Fords because in my mind (maybe a little prejudiced because of my father) I have seen more people have problems with Fords in the past. I have owned 2, but both were beaters and had problems so it wouldn't be fair to use them for the sake of argument. I even let my BIL (who doesn't know a lot about cars and he and my sister wanted my blessing before buying a used f-150) buy one. I prefer gm overall, but for trucks I also like Dodge (or Ram)- hate chrysler cars. I also recommended an old beater escort for my SIL because it was in good shape and fit her budget.

The only thing that I see as ridiculous is when people are comparing new vehicles and only look at the current specs and offerings... ie: "Chevy has the most powerful truck right now, I am gonna buy that." Most all trucks/ cars are good when they are new, and just buying based on who is at the top of the spec sheet at the time is stupid IMHO. I look at other things such as proven engine, and other long term things. Would I consider buying an old 7.3 powerstroke... probably because it is proven as is the 5.9 cummins. Would I buy a 6.0 powerstroke... no, because it is proven to have issues. I would not buy a truck/ car with a new engine it it. I would not buy an ecoboost because it is not known yet to be good or bad long-term, not because of my opinion of Ford. I keep my vehicles forever and am looking at long-term reliability.

I have an old Dodge ram that has had tranny problems and quite a bit of front-end work over the years, but it starts everytime I need it to (except when the starter went out) and gets the job done, even if it is a little underpowered by today's standards.

I guess I have done quite a bit or rambling here, but my point is that it seems stupid to me to buy based on specs when brand new. It is just as stupid to by based ONLY on brand as they all have problems... they are all junk.

 

[Hay Dude]

maybee you could just ignore him if you don't want to read his posts.

it a great, IMHO, under used feature this board has.

It is a great feature, but when enabled the threads dont make much sense, especially when you're ignoring a member who posts as much as he does.
I dont feel like I should have to "ignore" and suffer through disjointed threads because of someone who's breaking forum rules with political jabs and anti-GM rhetoric on a continuing basis.

 

[Hay Dude]

and I don't make comments that people that own gm are bad..e tc. I OWN a gm ( must be a karmic debt or something ).IIRC, the 'don't get out much' comment was made re: an oil life monitor comment where someone said that you needed a gm to get an oil monitor, as if ford didn't have them. then the comment was made that the bowtie guys didn't get out much, perhaps, guessing here, about not knowing about ford oil life monitor..e tc.

I'm making a few guess there mind you.. but I think that's how the flow went.

I know you don't make those kinds of comments. I was referring to "Chris".
The way you put down GM is actually tolerable to me. You seem to hate your GM, but don't feel the need to put down other members who own them, or their vehicles. You and I have no issues. I enjoy reading your posts.
I'm the same way with Ford. I'm open-minded enough to know that the 6L has a lot of problems and I wouldn't pee on one if it was on fire, but not all of them are that way and I don't think people who own them are lacking intelligence.

 

[murphy1244]

My 95 WT 1500 is in the shop again, needs new fuel pump and oxy sensor. This truck is slowly bleeding me but it don't go thru tires.

 

[Hay Dude]

Most 17-18 yr old vehicles do bleed their owners to death...lol

 

[Soundguy]

and suffer through disjointed threads because of someone who's ........on a continuing basis.

I guess some could say the same about people who are continually complaining about not wanting to read some other persons posts.. and yet they won't ignore them.. and instead.. just continually complain about it?

eh?

remember... the other half of the 'don't annoy' rule, is don't be too easilly annoyed.

 

[timswi]

My 95 WT 1500 is in the shop again, needs new fuel pump and oxy sensor. This truck is slowly bleeding me but it don't go thru tires.

Ah '95? That's like 17 years old..Best of luck finding anything that won't give you (some) trouble after that much time..Good grief..What does that have to do with anything here?

Your average 17 year old kid will give you more problems and expense than that...

 

[murphy1244]

Ah '95? That's like 17 years old..Best of luck finding anything that won't give you (some) trouble after that much time..Good grief..What does that have to do with anything here?

I alway's see on these threads the old trucks towing 20,0000 pounds and getting 25 miles to the quart and have thirty gazillion miles on it. Good Grief Charlie Brown what does anything have to do with anything?

 

[the old grind]

Suppose brand bias begets neglect, ..which begets bad experience, ..which begets brand bashing. I'll take all comments with a block of salt if need be. My 2 cars & both trucks are GM, hardly a reason to bash Ford in any way, since 'YMMV' is a fact of life, and the quality of either is subjective. I won't disparage anything I can take proper care of and repair as needed, so my 'bash' list remains an empty page.
Now If I dare mention oil:

Oil doesn't wear out. Dino oils' varied-length molecular chains sacrifice the shortest as they combine with contaminants, ending up as sludge or filtered swarf but leaving the better, longer chains more or less intact and o'all perhaps a better lube than when new. If this sounds too rosey to be real there's a reason: Ph! As oils turn acidic galvanic action will eat at the 'less noble' and more reactive metals such as bearing linings (babbit). It's kind of like reverse plating, and it seems 'change' sensors monitor Ph to warn us. (The zinc 'sacrificial anodes' on our boats are to spare the aluminum of our props when immersed ....)

Reclaimed oil may smell funky, but having sacrificed its shorter molecular chains to contamination what's left is the good part. Filter and adjust Ph to get serious stuff. Synthetics are made all long-chain from the start. From that they resist contamination and maintain stable Ph longer. Better is better, tho' we all may be changing more often than need be. Ok, no prob, call it cheap insurance .... you know, that stuff we pay for not because we expect disaster but because it covers our butts if and when.

Hey, remember the old guy who said he always changed filters but never his oil? Well, he changed 1/2 qt or so every time by topping up afterwards, though I doubt anybody's pulled that one off successfully post-WWII ....