Wild plumbing estimate.

   / Wild plumbing estimate. #51  
It's nice sometimes to be sitting in a boat fishing or just doing something else, while in the back of your mind your thinking "This is great and my plumbing is getting fixed right now too"
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #52  
I have a rule of plumbing.
"You can do it yourself,get it wrong, take it apart and do it again ,still wrong, take it apart and go get all new parts as you've cut the first set too short or otherwise fubared them, then do it right the third time using the lessons of attempt one and two, and still be cheaper then hiring a plumber"
Of course if you are a slow learner and fubar the threads at the beginning of the project or have to go for Fourths it would be cheaper and a lot less stressful to let the plumber have his way with your check book.
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #53  
:) I like this: "let the plumber have his way with your check book"
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #54  
I like the idea of being a DIY kind of guy and I admire folks who are..........but for folks like me who will attempt things that maybe their friends wouldn't attempt.....there are always those moments of unexpected disasters that take a simple job and turn it into a nightmare. I can't think of many specific examples (my wife calls that selective memory because there have been plenty) but its things like stripped threads, broken bolts, not having the right tool or that unexpected thing you find (hit) in a wall or underground that turns a 2 hour job into an all day job. Or a $100 project into a $500 project. The fear of those sorts of SNAFUs usually make me prefer to call the plumber, mechanic or whatever. A job well done, by a pro, for a reasonable price is often as satisfying as a job I do myself.

Its a fine line between a frugal DIY hero and an expensive, bumbling putz. In my 50 years I'd say I'm batting about 500.:laughing:

Believe me. Plumbers get into stuff they haven't seen B-4 as well. We run into jobs that take us longer than we originally though it would.We just have to figure it out and, sometimes we just have to step back and gather our thoughts as to how we're going to make a unusual repair, install, etc,. When you dig something up that was put in the ground 40,50, etc, yrs ago, it's like opening a box of chocolats, You never know what your going to get
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #55  
This (and the rest of the thread) would be interesting to post on forum for plumbers, for the business owner's viewpoint.

I think the plumbers have to start getting in touch with their customers.

I may be a tougher customer than many, since I can do the work myself, and as I get older, if it needs more grunt than I can muster, I know how to hire day labor who can supply that effort at a reasonable price.
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #56  
I like the idea of being a DIY kind of guy and I admire folks who are..........but for folks like me who will attempt things that maybe their friends wouldn't attempt.....there are always those moments of unexpected disasters that take a simple job and turn it into a nightmare. I can't think of many specific examples (my wife calls that selective memory because there have been plenty) but its things like stripped threads, broken bolts, not having the right tool or that unexpected thing you find (hit) in a wall or underground that turns a 2 hour job into an all day job. Or a $100 project into a $500 project. The fear of those sorts of SNAFUs usually make me prefer to call the plumber, mechanic or whatever. A job well done, by a pro, for a reasonable price is often as satisfying as a job I do myself.

Its a fine line between a frugal DIY hero and an expensive, bumbling putz. In my 50 years I'd say I'm batting about 500.:laughing:

I've been a "DIYer" all my life but the past couple of years I find I am "checkbooking" things I "could" have done myself. I am a bit old to be crawling around on my knees or back under sinks and things. Current problem is my kitchen sink, My disabled wife started to fall last night, grabbed the faucet and somhow broke it loose underneath. Fortunately didn't cause a leak but it is now basicallyijust sitting there loose. Operational has to be held while operating. Task to day is to at least clean out all the junk under there and decide if I will crawl in and examine it. I suspect Iwill wimp out and call the plumber inthe morning.

Harry K
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #57  
My church has to put in a sewer line tap. The town code inspector is insisting we put in a temporary manhole to manhole pump bypass system on the sewer line while the plumber makes the tap just in case there's a problem. No one else in town has ever had to do this before, we are the first. Our plumbers estimate is $18,000 for the temp pumps, in addition to his work.
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #58  
My church has to put in a sewer line tap. The town code inspector is insisting we put in a temporary manhole to manhole pump bypass system on the sewer line while the plumber makes the tap just in case there's a problem. No one else in town has ever had to do this before, we are the first. Our plumbers estimate is $18,000 for the temp pumps, in addition to his work.

Codes and rules are always changingIe, what wou can do one month, you can't do the next.. Alot of places will let you run PVC for sewer lines. In my county, you have to use ductile iron for sewer.
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #59  
Codes and rules are always changingIe, what wou can do one month, you can't do the next.. Alot of places will let you run PVC for sewer lines. In my county, you have to use ductile iron for sewer.

It's not in their codes. He makes it up as he goes.
 
   / Wild plumbing estimate. #60  
It's not in their codes. He makes it up as he goes.

In the many yrs that I have delt with inspectors.They have that right. I had 1 plumber here, tell me an inspector made him re-do some plumbing work because, he didn't like the way it looked. Eventhough, it was up to code. Here we have the right to go over their head (appeal) to the chief inspector, but the original inspector will make you wish you hadn't for the rest of your life !
 

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