Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH's posts for

[rockyridgefarm]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

WAIT! I turned my NH forums on, and - hold the presses - WE HAVE PASSED the BlueBonnets!!!!

More Posts than Blue,

Never get confused for a Kioti,

Better'n Kubota,

What more could you want!!!

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[_RaT_]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

"OK, wanna stir somethin up, why do Kub Loader dscv s look like they were plumbed as an afterthought? Why don't they mount the stick on the tbottem side of the the ROPs top?"

Because the loader has more power then the 430, because the loader has much more steel in it and there was no room left, because the joystick is at a optimium location, I don't know why Kubota chose to make the hoses so easily accessable. What ever the reason, we all love it and would'nt want it any other way. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

OK, I'll change my little JD sign now to the little plus sign. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Rat...

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

<font color="orange"> OK, I'll change my little JD sign now to the little plus sign. </font>

But what will we do for fun??!!!

Seriously HerrRattmeister, whattya think of the new green 400xloader and 448 hoes? I mean your objective, scientificly sound anaysis...

Quik-Park™ Mounting allows easy installation or removal of loader

Loader boom is contoured for improved forward visibility

Optional Loader Attachments:
Grapple Bucket
4-in-1 Bucket
Boom-Mounted Front Blade (72- or 84-inch)
Materials Buckets and Heavy-Duty Buckets

Specifications Per ASAE 301.3
Measured @ Pivot Pin:
Lift Capacity 2368 Lbs.
(1074 kg)
Lift Height 112.8 In.
(2864 mm)
Boom Breakout 3506 Lbf.
(15,600 N)
Dump Angle - 46 Degrees
Rollback Angle - 31 Degrees
Quick-Tatch Loading
Quick-Tatch Carrier
Mounting Frame
Hood Guard
Bucket Level Indicator
73 In.(1850 mm) Materials
Bucket

448 Backhoe (For 4500-4700, 4510-4710, 4120-4720 Tractors)
Features


8 feet 9 inch maximum digging depth

Curved power boom gives operator better view of digging area

Flip-over stabilizer pads for quick conversion between field and street usae

A revised valve design reduces temperature rise during backhoe operation

Adjustable seat pivots up and locks automatically when not in use

Buckets available in 12-, 18-, 24-, and 36-inch widths

Heavy-duty buckets available in 14-, 18-, 24-, 36-, and 40-inch widths

Tractor must be equipped with a front loader when using a backhoe



8 ft. 9 In.(2.7 m) Digging
Depth
Quick-Tatch Mounting
Two Double Acting Swing
Cylinders
180 Degree Swing
Narrow Control Console
Two Lever Control
Six Spool Control Valve
Hydraulics
12 In. Bucket

Operator's Seat with
Transport Locks
Hydraulic Stabilizers with
Flip-Over Pads
Rockshaft Assist Mounting
Brackets, Hardware and
Adapter Frame Plate for
4510-4710 and 4120-4720
Tractors

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

Ohhh R-A-A-A-T!!!

 

[rb4410]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

....well i tell ya,i owned an 01 TC29D,and now i am on a new 4410 if that says anything. blue never owned up to their claims,but now i can tell you first hand guys that be it ever so humble,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,nothing runs like a deere !!!!!

 

[Bob_Skurka]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

I'll jump back in on this. . .

OBJECTIVELY, I think that JD is getting better with their large loaders now that some of the bigger machines have the curved loader arms available. HOWEVER, the curved arms are SUPPOSED to be a FUNCTIONAL addition to increase the visibility of the bucket and the load.

Take a careful look at the placement of the loader arms and their slope forward. From the drivers seat, a normal size male would not be able to see the top edge of the bucket. The slope of the loader arm is not severe enough to allow for the visibility that is achieved with the NH "LA" series loaders. The point of the curved arms is to see the bucket, in fact it is to see A LOT of the bucket. I applaud JD for the improvement of their old design, but they have more improving to do. I presume that JD will bring a version of their curved loader arms out for the smaller & mid sized CUTs; the questin is will it be the same cosmetic curve on the 400x loader or will it be a real design improvement?

It appears that JD has their loader designed to follow the curve of their hood when the bucket is down. On my NH loader, the arms are well below the hood when the bucket is at rest and sloping severly toward the back edge of the bucket so when scooping or digging material, I can actually see most of the bucket, not just get a quick glimpse of the top edge.

For anyone who has ever driven an articulated loader you know how much easier it is to do the job, and how much more productive you are when you can ACTUALLY see what you are picking up. A conventional tractor will never compete with an articulated machine for productivity, but there are better and worse designs. As of now, NH is the objective winner in loader arm design.

As for the back hoes, I will honestly plead ignorance as I simply do not know.

 

[_RaT_]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

The new loader and tractor are OK, but the new hoe is an A+. I draw my conclusion from the pictures you presented. I have yet to see a hoe for a compact as nice as the one you have shown. If it works as nice as the picture details it to be, it would have to be the best. The new tractor style is probably one of those things that needs to grow on you. It looks a little like a extra big ride on mower. That in no way means there is a thing bad about it, it's just my first impression. It's like when Dodge came out with the new style truck. I heard all the talk about big, brawny, Arnold on steroids like and when I saw it, sheeesh, big deal. It's like seeing a movie that was over done by the reviewer. Now that the Dodge has been around, I like it.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

Bob, I have to (conditionally) beg to agree with you. as Woodbeef posted, the pictures COULD be deceiving. We shall see, but I bet you're right!

But, truth is. I was planning on a TC35D when I was shopping. I comparison drove the Deere, just for reference. I got to use the loaders in test drives, and chose the Deere. I then looked very carefully, and didn't think there was actually that much difference in the visibility. But that is a Large vs. mid frame comparison. But there was no 12LA or 14LA then...

RatMan, right on, that hoe looks terrific. Do NOT show that to my wife!!!

OK folks, the real news, to me on both the CNH and Deere loaders is the new grease zerks!

 

[_RaT_]

Re: Will you Yellow bottoms ever exceed NH\'s posts for

Mrs. MCloskey, Mrs. MCloskey, John Deere has a new hoe out that would look quite nice on your Club 4310, you might want to see about twisiting #2's arm a little. Someone also said they are using new zerks instead of used ones. Something about CNH. I'm confused on that one. (Canadian Ham?). At any rate, you have my blessing to purchase the new hoe design. I'm hoping it can be painted orange and still fit on my Kubota. I like it! Sir King Rat...