Window glazing (caulk??)

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Mom's on phone telling me hers is drying out & needs repaired.

Is it a special material used to glaze glass inside a entrance door , or will a tube of outdoor caulk serve just as fine (which she has already)

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Glazing compound is used for window panes. I know because I've re-glazed every window in our house, many of which were six over six. I would not use caulk.
 
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Thanks, message has been forwarded

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Mike, since you have admitted to glazing your windows, will you please give a basic rundown of the steps you took to re-glaze your windows?
I live in a nearly 100 year old house and I am starting to paint the exterior. The windows seem fragile and the glazing comes off when I touch the edges. Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks,
Lawrence
 
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Our house is over 100 years old, too. The upper sash was fixed while the lower sash went up and down and was held up by a stick. Since I wanted to save as many of the old panes as possible, here's what I did.

1. Used a putty knife to pry off the trim holding the sashes in the opening.
2. Took the sashes out (we had storm windows to keep out the weather)
3. Laid the sash on a large work table that gave me plenty of room to work.
4. Chipped out the loose glazing
5. Use a heat gun to soften the remaining glazing. Care must be used to not heat the glass too much or it will crack.
6. Remove remaining glazing.
7. Remove the glazing points.
8. Lightly tap the pane from the other side to remove.
9. Clean glazing off the pane.
10. Sand sash where the pane sits to bare wood and prime (oil based primer).
11. Lay bed of glazing for the pane to sit on, lay pane on glazing compound and lightly press to set and install glazier's points.
12. Lay bead of glazing compound around pane.
13. Form with putty knife
14. Clean off excess from both sides of pane.
15. Allow overnight to cure and prime and paint.

This is an overview, if you want details about any step, just ask.

This is a tedious process requiring lots of patience or glass will break and leaning over the table hurts the back, but it beat installing modern windows.
 
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Dap makes an acrylic glazing now that comes in a caulk tube. The older stuff looks more original, (cuz it is) but the acrylic is way faster and less messy. After one paints it, there's not much difference.

I tried some Ace brand acrylic glazing but the tubes had so many air bubbles I ended up wasting a lot of it pooping out all over my ladder. I only get the Dap now.
 
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Thanks Mike. I know I have a big task ahead of me. I will be sure to ask if I have any questions /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Lawrence
 
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It really doesnt get any more detailed than what Mike posted. It just takes time. If it is a full sized windows it really isnt bad, if you are dealing with 6 panes,..... well, pain is a good term to use /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

DAP has made glazing compound for years, I like the canned stuff, just use a putty knife.
 
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Two more pieces of advice, that I discovered too late (I was down to my last 6 over 6 window)...

You can simulate 6 x 6 sashes but use one piece of glass per sash by trimming the piece of wood that the glazier points stick into. This allows one piece of glass to lay flush. Of course when you do this, you have to prime and finish paint the inside of the 6 x 6 grid before you put the glass in.

While I wanted to re-use all the old panes of glass, some were already broken and I broke some trying to get them out. So, I was left with buying 'new' old glass or using new panes. If you have to do this I recommend doing an entire sash with either 6 panes of new glass or do the single sheet trick I just mentioned. There's an obvious difference between new and old glass when the panes are side by side.
 
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Houses that are 100 years old? They're almost new...

Mine is 284 years old ( 1721) and has (36) 12 over 12 windows.

I have reglazed more than a few...

Form the putty into a ball and roll it in your palms to warm it up first... It will be far easier to apply...

Regards,
Chris
 

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