Wonder what might be next for the 4000 series

[timb]

Funny coincidence - I was just wondering myself on the way into work this morning if Deere might be planning something along those lines to compete with the new big 30 series Kubota and big TC that's supposed to be coming.

Fun as it sounds I wonder if it would ever happen. The 5x05 series is only a tick larger as it is now - and the 5x20 just that much bigger again. How much bigger (wheelbase, engine displacement, etc.,) could they make a 4710 before it is nothing more than a deluxe 5x05? (Hmm now maybe that's not a bad idea...) /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[jmattox1]

My thoughts on a 4210:
Most I have heard posted before and I agree with them.

Move PTO switch so falling objects do not shut off you PTO (Peach from a Peach tree).

Make Mid and Rear PTO independant

More Lights

Better Parking Brake

Flipover seat for BH

Rear lighting

Easier way to fuel

 

[rancar]

Tim,

When Deere was only making the 4x00 series a few years ago, they topped out with the 4600. Then, after a couple years, they introduced the 4700 for those who wanted a little extra oomph. I believe they used the same chassis and everything else. They just put in a bigger engine of about 3HP that produced more torque. They carried everything over into the 4x10 series when they made refinements to the tranny options and added a few other extra goodies. Now, it just seems logical to provide a 4810 and 4910 with a slightly bigger chassis and engines for those of us who still want a compact frame tractor but with even more HP.

I at one time looked at the 5220 but decided against it for two reasons. It was too big to get in my garage (that vertical exhaust pipe would have hit the top of my garage door frame)and a bit too wide to negotiate narrow paths through the woods. But, if they built a smaller 4810 or 4910 that was not as wide as the 5220 which comes with a side exhaust like the 4x10 series does and additional HP, then I would love to trade up to one of these babies.

...Bob

 

[rockyridgefarm]

A hydro fill cap that can be reached with Power Beyond installed.

BTW the Idea for a quieter engine came while I was getting ready to suggest Adaptive Noise Reduction for the operator station. Some new planes have it in the cockpits. I decides a quieter engine was more doable...

BTW I like the Tilt Steering mechanism. It seems sturdy and Tractor Like. I don't expect it to snap in half...

There will be HID lighting.

The next IMatch will have hydraulic connectors for attachments which will be hydraulic powered. All will connect automatically. Now can the hydraulics power a rotary cutter?

More plastic. (Kubota Owners don't hate 'em enough /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif )

Top amd Tilt as Standard Equip. Go one better than the <font color="orange">L30s </font> 3PH.

Did anyone mention the MidPTO? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

How 'bout mini brushguards for the pto knobs?

 

[timb]

Bob,

It does seem from what I've read over time that each time Deere comes out with a new series there is a hestitation to bring out the big gun. (1070->4700->4710) The heavy hitter of the series is always the last one to the party.

But with the 5x05 series only being a few inches longer in wheelbase (and actually lower overall if I remember the numbers) there's not much room to shoehorn something in between. Sounds like the 4710 is already about as much power as you can use in that weight class - but again the 5x05 isn't that much heavier.

What I do like about the 5x20 (and I think it's true of the 5x05 as well) is the much more adjustable MFWD front axle.

Put a little more beef where it counts, the front axle of the '05 and maybe around a 145 cube engine and that would make a nice 4810.

(And get rid of most the infernal electronics-my opinion-except make a 60-amp plus alt. standard. Can't have too much lighting, my eyes must be getting old). /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Tim

 

[rancar]

<font color="blue"> Put a little more beef where it counts, the front axle of the '05 and maybe around a 145 cube engine and that would make a nice 4810. </font>

I'll buy that. Bigger engine, beefier front axle, bigger front wheels.....all of this would be an improvement over the 4710 in terms of power generation and potential FEL lift capacity. With increased power and a bigger axle and tires, one might be able to hitch the FEL to an even bigger bucket with greater capacity. I have always thought these 460 buckets are a bit small compared to the buckets on the 5000 series tractors.

...Bob

 

[Anonymous Poster]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( beefier front axle )</font>

I have the beefier front axle on my JD 4400 /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif....not the lightweight newer version. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Anonymous Poster]

Put the PTO controls on the dashboard. I turned it off with my arm once , dont have peach trees.
Move the cupholder away from the switches.
Make a tool box that can hold a hammer. That curve is useless.
DONT change the 2 pedal eHydro, or the everything is on the right side that needs checking.