wood burning stoves

   / wood burning stoves #11  
Mutt mentioned the chimney... Don't chimneys generally need to be above the peak of the house. Depending upon what type of chimney, it could be quite expensive and/or perhaps a bit of an eye sore...

Billboe
 
   / wood burning stoves #12  
billboe
you're correct. that's why i mentioned it as were were lucky and planned for the 2 chimneys coming thru the center of the house. on a retrofit, it could get complicated(read $$$). the payback for what we did, from a tank of lp gas a month to a tank a year/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
regards
Mutt
 
   / wood burning stoves #13  
Having a walk-out basement is a plus. There are several types of chimneys available, some more expensive than others. I have heated my house totally with wood going on 28 years now, one stove is in the basement and I do have to carry wood to it, but it keeps me in shape and twice warm.

Check with your insurance company and the local building codes for stoves in your area and get an couple of estimates for a chimney, if you need one. There is nothing like standing in front of a nice warm stove on a cold winter's night or morning for that matter.

Randy
 
   / wood burning stoves #14  
You may be able to use fireplace rated double walled pipe rather than having to build a chimney. That would be a whole lot less expensive but you'd have to check with the local law, I mean building dept.

Todd in Placerville

'98 NH 1920 4x4
 
   / wood burning stoves #15  
Hobby guy, well I can say I've tried both the basement wood stove and the outside waterstove solutions. Here's my comments on both. First let me describe my setup. We have a walkout basement about 1500sqft and a single door to the first floor of about 2500sqft. Basement is poured concrete walls and 6" concrete floor.
I got the largest wood stove they make from Vermont Castings, the Duchwest model($1200). Easy to setup and operate, and boy did it heat the basement well. We would be in shorts down there and it would be 20 outside. Once it gets all that concrete warm( about 1day) it's very toasty. My doors are located close enough to the stove that I can bring a loader full of wood right to the door and unload it right next to the stove. A full load in the stove required 3-4 pieces of wood up to 24" long. This would burn at pretty much wide open for 8 hours and by leaving the basement door open it would provide heat for most of the first floor unless it got in the 10's or low 20's for extended period of time. We had a power outage one Christmas eve and day a few years ago and the only heat we had was from the stove and it stayed 58-60 degrees upstairs for most of the time(20 outside). Not toasty, but sweatshirt and pants were comfortable.
The pain/expence with that was keeping the chimney system cleaned. About twice a burning season, we'd have the chimney cleaned. Each year I'd replace most of the gaskets on the stove. But for the amount of wood, it really put out the heat, and if you've got 1500-2500sqft to heat, you can't beat it. It does produce a very dry heat, so as a by-product, out basement is very dry and warm compared to damp and cool.

Then last year I had the chance to pickup a great buy on a large used waterstove(Taylor). I located it about 100' from the house and had two heat exchangers installed for the first and second floor. It hold 800g of water and has a 2x2x3 firebox. It cost about $2500 to have the underground pipes, pumps and ductwork done.

Now, I just cut long pieces of logs, no splitting, green or dry, pine or hardwood and throw them into the stove once a day.
And it heats our domestic hot water too. I have free access to all the wood I need, just chainsaw work.

Since the stove is located out and away from the house there's never any smoke smell or ashes/dirt from the fire or the wood. No chimney cleaning, longer time between fill-ups.
It does used more wood than the woodstove, but the it's advantages outway that.

The waterstove is more monry upfront and if firewood supply is not an issue then in the longrun it would be the way to go. The woodstove is a very good solution too, we still fire it up when we use the basement, Thanksgiving and Christmas family dinners and parties.

Good luck and if you have any specific questions please let me know.
gary
 
   / wood burning stoves #16  
I installed a double insulated metal chimney, brand name Metalbestos (sp). The cost per foot was more than if I built a masonary chimney but installation was a fraction of the time. If you had to hire the work done by a contractor the prices may be some what different.

I really like the metal insulated chimney.

Randy
 
   / wood burning stoves #17  
I hate to be the danger ranger, but let your insurance
guy know you are thinking about doing this and see your
premium change before hand.

they will deny a claim due to a woodburner they did not
know about.

Steve
Champagne Taste, Beer Budget
 
   / wood burning stoves #18  
That was thinking ahead Mutt! And talk about pay back!!

Billboe
 
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#19  
the ideas are great. any more info on the metal chimmny's. I have seen several around our area and want to know the cost. I will contact the insurance and the township to see if this is even possible thanks keep those thoughts coming. next question where to begin on the remodel plans and what type of floor to go under at least the stove if I do it. can I lay tile. I know that there will be carpet in part of it so i thought tile might be and inexpensive way to go
 
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#20  
spoke with a fireplace contractor he agreed about the metal piping. or insulated chimminy he called it. he did say figure about 50 buck a foot for that stuff (I think I will talk with other fire place guys) he did say contact your insuracne agent which I did. They said rates would stay the same. and the home would still by covered. I would just have to fill some form out and make sure it was inspected and submit pictures of the work to them. know it's just a matter finding time and money to do any of this. I'm not in a rush since it is supposed to be near 70 today dec 5th in michigan i guess a fire place is not on the top of the list of needs today.
 

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