Wood/Coal/Oil Furnaces

   / Wood/Coal/Oil Furnaces #21  
Too bad you wife had that one bad experience. We had our family room, kitchen and dinette with infloor, well I guess it is under the floor heating and just loved it. You can put your furniture wherever you want and not have any radiators to deal with. We had beautiful tile floors that were nice and warm, but not hot. What a shame that one bad experience has ruined it for her, well you will be nice and toasty warm in the garage. We ahve radiators here and they are similar to the ones Bill Blarus mentioned in his post.
Buderus Panel Radiators Your wife may be concerned that perhaps they don't look big enough to heat a room, trust me they are. But nwo with all the olive wood and our great fireplace we have not turned on the heating system in 3 years. We only used it the first year actually. But if it gets really really really cold for a spell here we might turn it on again. The bad thing about any type of radiators, baseboard or these european style is it limits furniture placement. Show your wife on the plans where the baseboard radiators will go and she will see how it limits furniture placement. You cna't put any type of bookcase of hutch in front of them, even the baseboard ones becuase your bookcase then sticks out 4" from the wall. On the European styles ours are designed so that they go up and down. They are like 6 feet tall. So you can get styles that at least don't have to take so much horizontal wall space, you get a narrower one and use the up and down verticle wall space instead. That design is much better for furniture placement.
 
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I looked on the Keystone website. I didn't see any dual fuel units, do they make them? I would like a coal and or wood combo'd with either propane or oil.
 
   / Wood/Coal/Oil Furnaces #23  
I have a Harman Mark II coal stove with a hot water coil (not hooked up).... Stove will burn you out of the house if your want. I only burn coal when very cold. A few weeks ago, the high was 21 degrees... my 1000' square foot basement was 92 degrees... upstairs about 80... I love coal! Nothing burns hotter.

mark
 
   / Wood/Coal/Oil Furnaces #25  
Wayne County Hose said:
I didn't know there were flooring limits with infloor. The wife was in somebody's house that had infloor and her feet sweat.

It is not hard to install radiant heat pipes in such a way as to fully avoid hot spots. However, it can sometimes cost a bit more. For underfloor applications, I have used aluminum plates with good success - there is a slot that the PEX snaps in to, then you screw the plates to the sub floor. With engineered hardwood or tile above it is impossible to find hot spots. But you have to use a good grade (read substantial) aluminum plate. Just rigging up metal reflectors and foil insulation will not be as effective at spreading the heat out. Of course you also need a well regulated distribution system with relatively even loop length, etc...

Regarding the comment about flat panel (European style) radiators - they ROCK!! However, they tend to be really pricy. After I went to an outdoor wood boiler that is plumbed in to my indoor boiler via a water-water flat plate heat exchanger, I realized that I was stuck with a lower water temp than the baseboard surface area was designed to handle. So when remodeling one room in the house that was on the north side and quite cold, I took out all the BB and put in one custom sized flat panel radiator - nice nice nice! Plus you can individually regulate these radiators. Baseboards are usually installed serially, whereas radiators like this are a side-loop off the main loop and have their own valves.

If I were building new, I'd go radiant for sure. You never have to work around wall space issues caused by baseboard or radiator locations. If you want carpet you can go with non-rubber pads. This is OK for bedrooms where you might want it a bit cooler, but I would not recommend using too much carpet. Tile and engineered hardwood work really well over radiant.

~Paul
 

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