work on my allis g

Soundguy · Feb 23, 2005

( What's the BPS paint system? )

I must have missed this question earlier, sorry.

BPS ( best paint sold? ) is the paint tractor supply sells. They generally have quarts, gallons, and rattlecans of 'matched' colors.. however.. sometimes there are slight differences in that 'matching'.. so i always test paint a sample swatch before I do and touch up painting with a rattle can.

Anyway.. it's pretty decent, cheap, tractor enamil. 7.99 a quart.. perhaps 23? a gallon. Rattle cans are 3.99 I think.

A quart of primer is either just a bit more. or just a bit less than the regular quart paint. For a reducer I use mineral spirits if brushing ( touch up on lugnuts.. etc.. ) or Naptha if spraying. I also use their hardner they sell. I've used their paint in general for a few years.. and started spraying a couple years ago. At the beginning, I mixed right off the directions onthe can.. paint:reducer:hardner with a measuring cup. I now am retty good at eyeballing the reducer, and I mix the hardner at just a hair stronger than the info onthe can.. noting drastic.. just where say.. it calls for 8oz hardner to 1 gllon paint.. I might mix 9oz.. or 8.5.. etc.

The shine on my allis G is just a bit deeper than the shine onmy ford 2n.. that I painted a little over a year ago... though both look great.

Many people don't like it as it is a fairly inexpensive paint.. however.. I've had great luck with it. I don't baby my tractors.. they are work machines. I had a small section of barn roof colapse on my ford 8n during the florida hurricane extravaganze this year. In many cases.. the roof didn't even remove a complete layer of paint. Course in some places where tin roof pans hit it.. it 'cleaned' it to the metal.

As far as fading.. I have tractors painted with non bps paint, as well as the bps paint.. in my opinion.. the bps paint is holding up way better than the non-bps paint.

Soundguy

slydog · Feb 24, 2005

My step brother and his buddy have restored sever LARGE A/C's and drive them in tractor pulls. His buddy is the guy who sold me my 640.

They use the paint from TSC also, and they love it. He said they used to use buy the more expensive paints, but have found the TSC to be really great paint for a lot less price. It certainly looks great on their tractors!

slydog · Feb 27, 2005

I had to make a 2 hour drive yesterday morning down through the Mississippi delta. I passed an old farmhouse somewhere along the way, and there was a rusted up little old tractor parked under a tree that immediately brought your allis g to mind when I saw it.

I didn't have time to stop and take a look at it, but I did notice it had that wide open front frame on it, and the engine was on the rear. I wish I had at least stopped for a second to take a look now or written down approximately where it was. I'm already thinking about making the drive again just to locate the tractor.

I have no idea if it would even start. Is it hard to find parts for most of these old tractors? I know "condition" makes a huge difference in value, but assuming there are no visible signs of bad damage, ie cracks in blocks, heads, frames etc. What would you offer for one rusted up sitting under a tree?

EDIT.. Ok, I went back and read your original Allis G post and saw all of that information there. Now I've got to do some thinking. I could choke my step brother and his buddy..they are the ones who got me into this tractor "mess"! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Soundguy · Feb 27, 2005

Though the block on a G may be hard to find.. the internals aren't as hard.. as they are shared with a massey-harris pony.. nearly identical n62 engine.. save for the bellhousing on the block. Sheet metal is locatable.. if pricy. Gauges, wireing and electronics are all locatable.

Soundguy

David_Leslie · Mar 5, 2005

Soundguy:

When using the BPS paint from TSC, what ration do you mix paint:hardner:naptha thinner?

Thanks

David

OrangeGuy · Mar 5, 2005

Soundguy,

Your Allis Chalmers G sure brings back memories. My father was an AC dealer back in the 40's and 50's when the G was popular with truck farmers (vegetable farmers). I remember cultivating with one on the farm. It was a one row unit so very slow progress.

Your paint job looks great. You mentioned "persian orange" but from the pictures it looks more like the newer "corporate orange" Allis Chalmers color. Not a big deal as the newer color is brighter and better looking in my opinion.

OrangeGuy

Soundguy · Mar 6, 2005

Pretty much right off the side of the paint can. I think it is something like 8oz hardner per gallon of paint.. that's like 20z per quart, and then I can't remember on the naptha.. but the paint lists acceptable thinning mixture amount for naptha or mineral spirits.. perhaps 2+ oz as well.. The can recomended naptha as a spray thinner.. but mineral spirits as a brush or roller thinner. Then you let it set for 30 mins to activate, after mixing.. thent he mix is good for up to 8hrs... etc.

I am very happy with the results.

Soundguy

Soundguy · Mar 6, 2005

( You mentioned "persian orange" but from the pictures it looks more like the newer "corporate orange" Allis Chalmers color. Not a big deal as the newer color is brighter and better looking in my opinion.
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Yep.. I wasn't technically accurate when I posted that...The oem color was persian orange.. and since AC went to another color, it became known as persion orange I and persian orange II.. Technically I have PO II since that is what the TSC allischalmers orange paint is. However I understand you can still get both colors from real 'paint dealers'.

When I was taking the paint down incedentally.. I went thru one layer of PO II and then the base layer was indeed the 'darker' PO I.

Soundguy