dknarnd
Gold Member
Doesn't this sound like a bunch of kids just dareing you to give it a try /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif while all the time they are saying to themself that he's going to get stuck! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Working in a stream bed
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Farwell
Veteran Member
Everyone really wants those pictures as they are saying to themselves he's going to get stuck.
LBrown59
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I would be concerned about high and low places under the water that could flip the tractor.
hobbyfarm
Veteran Member
robison,
Why not rent an excavator? With a reasonable-sized excavator, you can easily reach across your stream and stay safely on the shore while performing this task.
Just a thought.
Why not rent an excavator? With a reasonable-sized excavator, you can easily reach across your stream and stay safely on the shore while performing this task.
Just a thought.
nasdaqsam
Silver Member
Robison,
You have been given some good advise. Especially regarding the permits you may or may not need. The fines can be huge, don't ask how I know. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
As for the ability to do it. Well, every situation is a little different and the amount of weight and movement it can take will very widely. I have a beach I work on (speaking of fines)and pulled on it with a mid size CASE BH. Went fine for about 20' then right to the frame it went. I can pull on that same beach with my Kubota and not sink as long as I do not move around much. If I start to move back and fourth down it goes. I do not enter the water, ever with the tractor. Are you reading this D.E.C.?" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Personnally I wouldn't even consider pulling my machine into the water for fear of the damage that could be done. Water ingestion is just plain not pretty. This could turn out to be a fairly expensive operation. Murphy's law has an amazing way of taking hold of a situation like this. What could happen. You try it, sink the tractor past the air intake and sieze the engine, the axles get water in them and seize the bearings, the neighbors call the authorities who slap a fine on you and make you clean up the mess after you go through the long permit process and pay environmental engineers to tell what you can do and how you will do it, along with the Army Corp getting involved and you still did not accomplish what you set out to do. Thats just off the top of my head.
Not to mention if this is a Trout pond the damage to the fish from all the contaminents of the tractor will do to them.
Best advise I can give. Call the authorities and see if you need any permits. Then use a large excavator with lots of reach and leave it on the bank. Pull up and several scopes later your done and your JD is still running.
Good Luck
You have been given some good advise. Especially regarding the permits you may or may not need. The fines can be huge, don't ask how I know. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
As for the ability to do it. Well, every situation is a little different and the amount of weight and movement it can take will very widely. I have a beach I work on (speaking of fines)and pulled on it with a mid size CASE BH. Went fine for about 20' then right to the frame it went. I can pull on that same beach with my Kubota and not sink as long as I do not move around much. If I start to move back and fourth down it goes. I do not enter the water, ever with the tractor. Are you reading this D.E.C.?" /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Personnally I wouldn't even consider pulling my machine into the water for fear of the damage that could be done. Water ingestion is just plain not pretty. This could turn out to be a fairly expensive operation. Murphy's law has an amazing way of taking hold of a situation like this. What could happen. You try it, sink the tractor past the air intake and sieze the engine, the axles get water in them and seize the bearings, the neighbors call the authorities who slap a fine on you and make you clean up the mess after you go through the long permit process and pay environmental engineers to tell what you can do and how you will do it, along with the Army Corp getting involved and you still did not accomplish what you set out to do. Thats just off the top of my head.
Not to mention if this is a Trout pond the damage to the fish from all the contaminents of the tractor will do to them.
Best advise I can give. Call the authorities and see if you need any permits. Then use a large excavator with lots of reach and leave it on the bank. Pull up and several scopes later your done and your JD is still running.
Good Luck
SnowRidge
Elite Member
Thread summation thus far:
From the NE -- You need a permit!
From the NW -- You may need a permit.
From the SW -- You may break something.
From the SE -- Take pictures!
From Tejas -- You may break something, but go ahead anyway, and take pictures!
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From the NE -- You need a permit!
From the NW -- You may need a permit.
From the SW -- You may break something.
From the SE -- Take pictures!
From Tejas -- You may break something, but go ahead anyway, and take pictures!
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nasdaqsam
Silver Member
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Thread summation thus far:
From the NE -- You need a permit!
From the NW -- You may need a permit.
From the SW -- You may break something.
From the SE -- Take pictures!
From Tejas -- You may break something, but go ahead anyway, and take pictures!
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>To be completely correct it would be NE you need a permit, and you will break something. I forgot about asking for pictures if attempted anyways. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
From the NE -- You need a permit!
From the NW -- You may need a permit.
From the SW -- You may break something.
From the SE -- Take pictures!
From Tejas -- You may break something, but go ahead anyway, and take pictures!
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>To be completely correct it would be NE you need a permit, and you will break something. I forgot about asking for pictures if attempted anyways. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
RipTide
New member
I have a somewhat different take on this. I do think you should drive right in, but I don't think you should take pictures. I think you should get someone else to take the pictures. Then, when you get stuck, it will be more amusing to us in the viewing audience.
albmn10
Gold Member
Hello Robinson, I actually have a similar situation as you.. I have a stream that fills my pond and the silt is about 1 - 2 feet deep. I was about to enter the dried up stream bed when my tractor sunk about a 1 1/2 ft.. I quickly dropped my loader and pushed myself out.. Could have been a real mess.. I was doing some thinking and thought perhaps i could make myself up a dredging bucket, perhaps using my ballast box with a sling and having someone winch the bucket through the silted areas while i walk behind using down pressure.. I also have a smaller section of my pond i wanted to remove some very deep silt as well.. It will be one of my weekend projects in the next few weeks.. ill let you know how it worked... Matt
