Working rail roads and their tracks.

[ovrszd]

Not talking about small industrial park business like that. Talking about large, impressive industrial projects-like the ore facility. I have seen huge steel mills plowed under here in PA and people get all giddy when theyre replaced with an amazon warehouse or a outdoor theatre or walking trail. Excuse my language, but screw that. We need to save our industries before theyre gone forever.
I see them being built in China hundreds at a time, but very little here. Ours look like theyre crumbling into the ground or one major repair to being abandoned.
The US hasnt been exactly a friendly place for heavy industries in the last 3 + decades.

I agree. Just because a big building is built that doesn't mean it is industrial. Most of those big buildings are warehouses for distribution of imported products. It's not hard to recognize an Industrial manufacturing building. You won't mistake it for a warehouse.

 

[5030]

"The US hasnt been exactly a friendly place for heavy industries in the last 3 + decades." and is about to get a whole lot less friendly under the incoming administration.:thumbdown:

 

[ArlyA]

Not talking about small industrial park business like that. Talking about large, impressive industrial projects-like the ore facility. I have seen huge steel mills plowed under here in PA and people get all giddy when theyre replaced with an amazon warehouse or a outdoor theatre or walking trail. Excuse my language, but screw that. We need to save our industries before theyre gone forever.
I see them being built in China hundreds at a time, but very little here. Ours look like theyre crumbling into the ground or one major repair to being abandoned.
The US hasnt been exactly a friendly place for heavy industries in the last 3 + decades.

Seems you reside in a small world and need to get out more.. Highly efficient steel mills are going like gang busters while inefficient mills go by the way side. This is how business goes.

Our rail system as seen today, is quite efficient.

 

[ovrszd]

Seems you reside in a small work and need to get out more.. Highly efficient steel mills are going like gang busters. Inefficient mills go by the way side. This is how business goes.

What percentage of this country's steel consumption is domestically produced?

 

[Hay Dude]

Seems you reside in a small work and need to get out more.. Highly efficient steel mills are going like gang busters while inefficient mills go by the way side. This is how business goes.

Our rail system as seen today, is quite efficient.

Gee what a nice thing to say.
I didnt say steel mills werent going like gangbusters Arlie A, I said NEW large industrial mills are rarely being built in this country anymore.

" Talking about large, impressive industrial projects-like the ore facility. "

Maybe you need to spend more comprehending what other people post a little better than the amazing job you do with the derogatory stuff.

 

[LouNY]

Between the EPA's regulations and OSHA's ham stringing of any kind of productive business It will be amazing if many continue to build or expand in this county.
With the so called green movement and the bias against hydro carbons or (gasp) nuclear energy and the lose of existing hydro and the inability to build new,
energy costs will be prohibity for much heavy industries. Even the "American" companies are just shells here nearly all of there production is off shore/ third world county.
Without accessibility to raw materials and inexpensive power heavy manufacturing can not flourish in this country.
Because of the "not in my backyard attitude" that is so prevalent every where in this country I do not see this changing in my lifetime and possibly never.

This statement is not a result of the pending administration change or the action of the present one,
it is a result of unelected bureaucratic administrations that had inbedded them selves into power that does not answer to the public or elected officials.

The last few posts as well as this one is getting of topic.

 

[5030]

What percentage of this country's steel consumption is domestically produced?

Bet he don't know...

 

[5030]

Here is a good video shot at CN's Duluth, MN Ore Dock. The cars there are little, but pellets are heavy and they are 200,000lbs capacity. Pellets are processed iron ore made into little balls that steel furnaces like. The large red pile that can modestly be seen on the left side of the dock is a reserve of pellets. Its size and hieght, can not be appreciated in the video. Its really, really big.

Drone footage isn't the best. Image is jerky and color saturation is washed out. Hay Dude's drone footage of the abandoned rail bridge was much, much better. There are drones and there are drones. Could have been much more professionally done.

 

[the old grind]

There's something wrong with everything, and who knows better how to find it than us TBN railfans? :thumbsup:

Companies are suffering from the North American steel shortage. We must build more mills and make more steel for them. Toyota needs to build more trucks here and we can't deny them. And have you seen the price of clean, beautiful coal by the trainload lately?

We could use more airports too, and d___it when will they put horse lanes next to all the confounded bike lanes? I miss the clip clop of the horses and the squeak of the wheels. It seems the auto industry is quite content to let the horse population to dwindle to unsustainable numbers.



btw, I can remember when a candy bar was as big as my hand and cost a nickel. Somebody mucked that up and we have to bring back the good old days or the planet is doomed and that means us too.

A challenge: Guess what page the lock will be on. Maybe one with no mention of trains? No wait, we've had that already.

 

[MossRoad]

As a country, the U.S. is still producing about the same amount of steel as it did 30 years ago.
About 1/4 of all steel in the U.S. is produced in Indiana. It was consolidated here from other places (like PA) because, for 1 reason among many, it sits on the shores of Lake Michigan and has access to LARGE BULK LAKE CARRIERS. It's the most efficient way to move it.

There's also steel mills in Ft. Wayne and I think Crawfordsville, but those are supported by rail and truck service only.

We have I/N Tek and I/N Kote cold rolled sheet steel plants about 5-6 miles from me.