Working rail roads and their tracks.

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One last trivia thing Mossy....Know why some master coils are loaded in gondola's and some on coil cars with no lids, while other have lids? ...and you do know wo owns Accelor Mittal right? Hint, not us....
Probably something to do with the finish and weathering, I'd guess.

And who owns it, besides a lot of people with mutual funds? Mr. Mittal.
 
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May have been Cambria steel I seen.

as seen on wiki
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The Cambria Iron Company of Johnstown, Pennsylvania was a major 19th-century industrial producer of iron and steel. Founded in 1852, it had the nation's largest steel foundry in the 1870s, and was renamed the Cambria Steel Company in 1898. The company used many innovations in the steelmaking process, including those of William Kelly and Henry Bessemer. The company was acquired in 1923 by the Bethlehem Steel Company. The company's historic facilities, extending some 12 miles (19 km) along the Conemaugh and Little Conemaugh Rivers, are a National Historic Landmark District.

A number of works by the firm are listed on the National Register of Historic Places.[1][4]
Nice find. (y)
 
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Certainly with one exception, US Steel in Gary is now Accelor Mittal, least I believe they are. Been away from the industry for a while.
Same in my area. Lukens Steel in Coatesville, PA was an American owned company. Now its Arcelor Mital from Luxembourg.
So if a foreign owned company buys an American Steel mill, does one believe it’s as American as an American manufacturer & owner? Same warm, fuzzy feeling as if it were US Steel?
I know I dont.
 
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Do you think US Steel should close their operations in Europe?
 
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Probably something to do with the finish and weathering, I'd guess.

And who owns it, besides a lot of people with mutual funds? Mr. Mittal.
Master coils hauled in gondola's and coil cars with no lids are hot rolled coils that are destined for further processing like annealing or pickling. Don't matter if they get a coating of rust on them because the oxide will be removed with further processing. The cars with lids (and the tower in the center of each lid) is so the crane operator at the facility they wind up at, can use a C hook to remove the lid before the coils are unloaded and those covered coils are most likely cold rolled or galvanized or HRPO coils (Hot rolled Pickled and Oiled).

Mittal is an India based corporation btw. Don't believe there is a Mr. Mittal. More like a board of directors. They bought Rouge Steel in Dearborn as well. I'd say they are the largest supplier of domestic flat rolled product in the United States now. SDI is nothing compared to them but Bussey is more interested in the specialty end of steelmaking, whereas Mittal just cranks out hot rolled and cold rolled master coils that others turn into finished products.

The largest specialty steel producer here was (I think they still are), Carpenter Technologies. They specialize in alloy steels and stainless flat rolled.

Been away from it for a pretty long time so the game players might have changed. Just going by what I knew when I was involved.
 
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No, but my point stands, a foreign (Luxembourg) owned steel mill in the US is not as American as an American owned steel mill in the US.
But I digress, you are the moderator and you said we have to keep it on railroads.
It's nothing to do with my moderation hat. It's an observation that the never ending theme about how bad things are in America that starts to drag down a lot of threads. Speaking for myself and not assuming anyone elses' thoughts on the matter, I'd like to see this thread stay open instead of digressing into yet another discussion about who's fault the state of the country is in. Once that discussion starts, it's just a matter of time before someone posts political content, it gets out of control, and poof.

So how about we leave that discussion out of this thread, and just enjoy the trains today?
 
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Master coils hauled in gondola's and coil cars with no lids are hot rolled coils that are destined for further processing like annealing or pickling. Don't matter if they get a coating of rust on them because the oxide will be removed with further processing. The cars with lids (and the tower in the center of each lid) is so the crane operator at the facility they wind up at, can use a C hook to remove the lid before the coils are unloaded and those covered coils are most likely cold rolled or galvanized or HRPO coils (Hot rolled Pickled and Oiled).

Mittal is an India based corporation btw. Don't believe there is a Mr. Mittal. More like a board of directors. They bought Rouge Steel in Dearborn as well. I'd say they are the largest supplier of domestic flat rolled product in the United States now. SDI is nothing compared to them but Bussey is more interested in the specialty end of steelmaking, whereas Mittal just cranks out hot rolled and cold rolled master coils that others turn into finished products.

The largest specialty steel producer here was (I think they still are), Carpenter Technologies. They specialize in alloy steels and stainless flat rolled.

Been away from it for a pretty long time so the game players might have changed. Just going by what I knew when I was involved.
We used to have "the steel train" that came through South Bend every afternoon around 4:00pm. It was usually only 50ish cars long, one engine, and a mix of steel cars, covered, not covered, no flat cars, and about 1/4 of the cars were full of scrap metal. Always heading west to east. It was on the Conrail tracks, now Norfolk and Southern.
 
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It's nothing to do with my moderation hat. It's an observation that the never ending theme about how bad things are in America that starts to drag down a lot of threads. Speaking for myself and not assuming anyone elses' thoughts on the matter, I'd like to see this thread stay open instead of digressing into yet another discussion about who's fault the state of the country is in. Once that discussion starts, it's just a matter of time before someone posts political content, it gets out of control, and poof.

So how about we leave that discussion out of this thread, and just enjoy the trains today?
That’s fine, but Why would the thread close? Who would close it? Is making the point that we don’t build railroad bridges like that anymore off-topic? Seems completely on topic (if that’s what you’re referring to)
 
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I kind of wish I had lived during the days of the Interurbans. There is an old abandoned interurban right of way just south of me. It's getting hard to see where it was but I know as does most everyone around here where the tracks were and in some places the wooden and steel bridges remain. Bet they were an interesting way to travel.

I spend quite a bit of my free time on You-Tube watching train video's. never get tired of watching them.
 
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I kind of wish I had lived during the days of the Interurbans. There is an old abandoned interurban right of way just south of me. It's getting hard to see where it was but I know as does most everyone around here where the tracks were and in some places the wooden and steel bridges remain. Bet they were an interesting way to travel.

I spend quite a bit of my free time on You-Tube watching train video's. never get tired of watching them.

We had a bunch of them. There’s a few places where remnants of the tracks and full stations remain, but became small businesses.
 
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I kind of wish I had lived during the days of the Interurbans. There is an old abandoned interurban right of way just south of me. It's getting hard to see where it was but I know as does most everyone around here where the tracks were and in some places the wooden and steel bridges remain. Bet they were an interesting way to travel.

I spend quite a bit of my free time on You-Tube watching train video's. never get tired of watching them.
There were several around here as well. The only one left is the South Shore. One of our kids took it to Chicago a few weeks ago, for that matter. It used to run down the center of the street here. Still does in Michigan City, IN.
 
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It's nothing to do with my moderation hat. It's an observation that the never ending theme about how bad things are in America that starts to drag down a lot of threads. Speaking for myself and not assuming anyone elses' thoughts on the matter, I'd like to see this thread stay open instead of digressing into yet another discussion about who's fault the state of the country is in. Once that discussion starts, it's just a matter of time before someone posts political content, it gets out of control, and poof.

So how about we leave that discussion out of this thread, and just enjoy the trains today?

I didn’t see anything in this thread going off the rails.
 
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I kind of wish I had lived during the days of the Interurbans. ... Bet they were an interesting way to travel.

I spend quite a bit of my free time on You-Tube watching train video's. never get tired of watching them.

Interesting how the times turn. There was an Interurban line here around 90 years ago, but paved highways and cheap automobiles spelled the end to it. Now cheap cars and the paved roads are almost overwhelmed and near gridlock isn't unusual. The solution is the Interurban revisited in the form of light rail. In the Seattle area they are spending billions to build a solution that their great-grandparents used every day.
 
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There were several around here as well. The only one left is the South Shore. One of our kids took it to Chicago a few weeks ago, for that matter. It used to run down the center of the street here. Still does in Michigan City, IN.
If memory serves me correctly, don't the South Shore rails pass right in front of the old US Steel now Mittal plant? Does it terminate right in downtown Chicago?
 
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If memory serves me correctly, don't the South Shore rails pass right in front of the old US Steel now Mittal plant? Does it terminate right in downtown Chicago?
I don't think it's an old US Steel plant. I think it's the old Inland Steel plant in East Chicago that was acquired by Ispat International. Ispat International somehow merged with Mittal.

US Steel has a huge mill in Gary, and another in Burns Harbor, IN. The South Shore goes right up along the Burns Habor mill. It goes straight west before it gets to the mill in Gary as the coast of Lake Michigan turns north-west, so it veers away from that mill in Gary. And it's pretty far south of the Mittal mill in East Chicago.

But, there's Mittal signs and US steel signs all over the place along US 12 from Burns Harbor to East Chicago, so I really can't say who owns what anymore.
 
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Interesting how the times turn. There was an Interurban line here around 90 years ago, but paved highways and cheap automobiles spelled the end to it. Now cheap cars and the paved roads are almost overwhelmed and near gridlock isn't unusual. The solution is the Interurban revisited in the form of light rail. In the Seattle area they are spending billions to build a solution that their great-grandparents used every day.
It is amazing isn't it. Rail is still and always will be the least expensive mode of transportation. The issue is, there isn't a rail siding at every Walmart...lol
 

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