Workmaster 45 review or owners?

[CaptHowdy]

Looking at getting a bare bones tractor for some hay raking, running a tiller and some light brush hogging with a 6ft cutter. I don't need a loader or 4x4. The price on this tractor is very appealing but I can't find much info on people that actually own it. Can someone chime in and let me know what they think or if there is another tractor I should take a look at? I priced the JD 5045d but it was 4k more.

 

[ironpen]

The WM 45 is an actual CNH product. I looked at one and unless I am mistaken only gears 3 and 4 are synchronized. The WM 35 and 40 are rebadged LS tractors, but I am pretty sure 45 and up are actual CNH tractors. The lack of synchro was a deal killer for me. I have a 3010S NH that I bought because my dealer sold it to me for less than a new FEL would have been for my TN75S. It has been reliable, but the lack of synchro except for 3 and 4 really gets on my nerves. Have you looked at Mahindra and LS? What about MF...I followed your posts on the 4600's over there? Hard to buy a bad tractor in this day and time and a man can never have too many!! I think in this HP range you should look hard at a hydrostatic tranny....you will like that a lot more and the price is not too much more

 

[CaptHowdy]

The WM 45 is an actual CNH product. I looked at one and unless I am mistaken only gears 3 and 4 are synchronized. The WM 35 and 40 are rebadged LS tractors, but I am pretty sure 45 and up are actual CNH tractors. The lack of synchro was a deal killer for me. I have a 3010S NH that I bought because my dealer sold it to me for less than a new FEL would have been for my TN75S. It has been reliable, but the lack of synchro except for 3 and 4 really gets on my nerves. Have you looked at Mahindra and LS? What about MF...I followed your posts on the 4600's over there? Hard to buy a bad tractor in this day and time and a man can never have too many!! I think in this HP range you should look hard at a hydrostatic tranny....you will like that a lot more and the price is not too much more

I really like my 4610 btw but just need something smaller for some other little jobs. I have just started looking but the price of the WM 45 is what had me interested. It is quite a bit less than the JD and MF. I'm still waiting on Kubota to get back to me and I have not looked at Mahindra because the closest dealer is a ways from me.

Here is what it says about the transmission.
8Fx8R with 4 constant mesh gears, 2 constant mesh ranges and synchronized shuttle

Link to specs. http://agriculture.newholland.com/u...ors/Workmaster/Pages/45-2WD_modelversion.aspx

 

[downslope]

I really like my 4610 btw but just need something smaller for some other little jobs. I have just started looking but the price of the WM 45 is what had me interested. It is quite a bit less than the JD and MF. I'm still waiting on Kubota to get back to me and I have not looked at Mahindra because the closest dealer is a ways from me.

Here is what it says about the transmission.
8Fx8R with 4 constant mesh gears, 2 constant mesh ranges and synchronized shuttle

Link to specs. Agricultural-Tractors New Holland Workmaster - Models, technical data and characteristics

Just curious, what Kubota model will you be comparing to?
Also, if you are looking at WM45 you should really consider moving up to WM55. Same basic tractor but more hp, much higher 3pt capacity, plus draft control.

 

[CaptHowdy]

Just curious, what Kubota model will you be comparing to?
Also, if you are looking at WM45 you should really consider moving up to WM55. Same basic tractor but more hp, much higher 3pt capacity, plus draft control.

The L4600.

 

[downslope]

The L4600.

I believe the Kubota L has smaller tires (lower to ground) and less adjustment to the wheel tread (narrower). Don't know if that matters to you or not, but I prefer the 28" wheels on the WM.

 

[CaptHowdy]

I believe the Kubota L has smaller tires (lower to ground) and less adjustment to the wheel tread (narrower). Don't know if that matters to you or not, but I prefer the 28" wheels on the WM.

Well yesterday I ran across a used Kioti ds4510 with loader. It's a little more than either of those two but it may be more versatile and have better resale.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I have the red version of then 45 and love it. Use it for tedding/raking and have a post pounder mounted to it for in the vineyard. The 45 is plenty powerful for what I use it for. It uses very little fuel, is extremely comfortable and very user friendly for attaching implements by yourself. Mine is 2wd and the synchronized gears is a non issue as for my uses I pick a gear and stay with it. Don't need to shift on the fly.

I like mine so much I want to add another one. Their also extremely quiet. I just can't say enough good things about this tractor.

 

[farmer2009]

Used a wm55 a little. Only problem was had some trouble getting the reverser to stay in reverse with a heavy load you had to hold the handle back. But that ended up being a cable that needed adjustment and it has worked fine. Good little tractor. For what your wanting I would suggest going to a 4wd for the bushhoging.

 

[CaptHowdy]

I have the red version of then 45 and love it. Use it for tedding/raking and have a post pounder mounted to it for in the vineyard. The 45 is plenty powerful for what I use it for. It uses very little fuel, is extremely comfortable and very user friendly for attaching implements by yourself. Mine is 2wd and the synchronized gears is a non issue as for my uses I pick a gear and stay with it. Don't need to shift on the fly.

I like mine so much I want to add another one. Their also extremely quiet. I just can't say enough good things about this tractor.

How do you think this tractor would handle a 6ft cutter? Would it need front end weights?

 

[Robert_in_NY]

How do you think this tractor would handle a 6ft cutter? Would it need front end weights?

I have ran a bush hog 295 and it handled it but the 295 is very heavy, heavier than the 6' woods md172 I also have. If your using a heavy cutter on hills the either mfwd or front weights would be advisable. I like the 2wd because of the tight turn radius for raking and to turn into every other row in the vineyards.

 

[CaptHowdy]

I have ran a bush hog 295 and it handled it but the 295 is very heavy, heavier than the 6' woods md172 I also have. If your using a heavy cutter on hills the either mfwd or front weights would be advisable. I like the 2wd because of the tight turn radius for raking and to turn into every other row in the vineyards.

Thank you for the response. I figured weights would be needed. I looked up the farmall version you have and for some reason they seem to be more expensive. They are the same except for paint, right?

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Thank you for the response. I figured weights would be needed. I looked up the farmall version you have and for some reason they seem to be more expensive. They are the same except for paint, right?

Paint, seat and hood are different, what were you quoted for the 45? I had two dealers for the farmall 45A. One was $14,900 and the other was $15,100 ( I paid $15,100 as I liked the dealer more)

 

[CaptHowdy]

Workmaster 45 12.5k cash price

 

[Soggy Bottom Outdoors]

Well........FIL bought a WM 55 new last year, FWD, and loader. There have been issues with it mostly dealer related. He bought the unit with fluid in the rears added, at 25 degrees F they froze and cut the tubes. (Not -25 regular 25F) From delivery the "dash" did "read" correctly, gauges would come on and go off, hour meter worked sometimes, sometimes not. The FWA engagement lever was very difficult to move/engage and rubbed hydraulic lines, battery was not bolted down securly, loader had never been greased. My FIL is a "blue tractor" man and we have two dealers about 40-50 miles apart. i should have known something was up when the two dealers where $4200 apart on the exact equiped machines. Come to find out the cheaper machine(the one FIL bought) had been on the lot for (some time). Other than the serial # some speculation is allowed. The dash problem was caused by mice, and even the dealer said the replaced the "curcuit" board it doesn't have one the replaced the whole dash. The FWA "knuckles" was all corroded up and rusty and once cleaned and lubed engagment worked fine. Most of this narrative was related to me by FIL, so something may be missing. Other than the cost of the tire repair FIL was out no expense(tractor was out of warrenty) but a lot of agrevation. Tractor was bought as "new" but a new 2013 is different from a new '11 or '12. Lesson learned........look it over close and ask lots and lots of questions.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Workmaster 45 12.5k cash price

My prices were the 0% price. I don't recall the cash price but I think it was a couple grand difference. I didn't pay cash because I had bought a new Kubota, dump trailer and a mini excavator in a few months time as well. Was in expansion mode on the farm. I would definitely price the red version and not rely on internet prices.

 

[CaptHowdy]

My prices were the 0% price. I don't recall the cash price but I think it was a couple grand difference. I didn't pay cash because I had bought a new Kubota, dump trailer and a mini excavator in a few months time as well. Was in expansion mode on the farm. I would definitely price the red version and not rely on internet prices.

The 0% for 72 month price was 13,500. The only problem with the red version is that I don't have a dealer near me. I believe the closest dealer is an hour.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

The 0% for 72 month price was 13,500. The only problem with the red version is that I don't have a dealer near me. I believe the closest dealer is an hour.

That is a great price.

 

[CaptHowdy]

Sorry to have abandoned this thread. They actually sold the WM 45 I was looking at. I'm now looking at a Kioti DK45SE and a WM 55 4wd. The more you look the more you end up spending it seems.....at least in my case lol. The Kioti is a really nice tractor with a loader and all and a quite a few more bells and whistles than the WM 55. But the 55 is bigger and more powerful and it can run the disc mower or a baler (whenever I get one) in a pinch if something happens to my bigger tractor. They both have their pros and cons it's just figuring out which one fits my needs better.

 

[sawtooth]

Ive heard some good stuff about Kioti. Have you tried both? The WM 55 mwfd should be a good tractor too though. Have you looked at Massey Ferguson? I'm a Ford New Holland guy buy I like the old school big cubic engines of old school design. Massey still uses this design even on smaller tractors. Look at the 2615 and 2625. More basic tractor but heavy and tons of torque.

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