wounded CK25...

[rback33]

When I got a chance to bend the ear of the Kioti factory people at the
recent World AG Expo, I told them I had purchased 3 CKs and they were
great tractors with one exception: vulnerable hyd plumbing and filter
underneath. They acted like they had never heard this complaint. I pointed
to the DKs and how much better they were underneath. I have never
owned or even seen a tractor with more vulnerable underside than the CK30.
I do not consider the CK30 to be a "smaller tractor" among CUTs.

Knowing the group that was at Tulare, I am not surprised that they were unaware of the clearance issues you mentioned. None of them were really service or engineering types for the most part. One of them used to be in that area, but is not so much any more and would not be in the direct loop on things like that. The rest were sales and marketing people who don't want to know about problems if they DO exist. I know that feeling well myself sometimes...it's just better to not know...

 

[dfkrug]

Knowing the group that was at Tulare, I am not surprised that they were unaware of the clearance issues you mentioned. None of them were really service or engineering types for the most part. One of them used to be in that area, but is not so much any more and would not be in the direct loop on things like that. The rest were sales and marketing people who don't want to know about problems if they DO exist. I know that feeling well myself sometimes...it's just better to not know...

Ain't that the truth.

One of the reasons I go to trade shows like this is to get a chance to
interview factory folks who might actually know something about their
products. I go to these shows well-armed with my own research, hands-on
and otherwise. Factory folks are rarely allowed out to get contact with
real world customers. Especially TECHNICAL factory folks.

With that in mind, Kubota gets an 'A-' for having knowledgeable technical
people at the World AG Expo. I wish I could say the same for certain other
tractor brands.

 

[CBB]

I'd consider that a well earned battle scar. Hard to knock the designers for not figuring out a way to prevent that type of damage. I haven't injured anything under my tractor yet but I've knocked the turnsignal lights off, dented the grill (despite the grill guard) and generally scraped things up a bit while dueling with Mother Nature. You cannot always anticipate how and where she's going to strike back. I just consider these injuries under the "cost of doing business" category and move on.

If I do something like that to my tractor, okay since I bought it. What really pisses me off is when I lend equipment and see that type of thing.

There are quite a number of young men who know everything about everything hanging around the farm a lot. Sometimes I am pleased with their tidbits of knowledge and other times I just shake my head in exasperation. My experience has been that if I leave them unattended working on a project using equipment, when I come back I find then beating the living hel l out of my machines. My rules are keep the RPM's low and take your time, treat the machine like a baby. It cost a lot more to fix than the little bit of labor time they save beating it to get done quicker.


Bottom line...if my machine is going to get beat--and I don't subscribe to that--it better be me doing it! My experience it that if you treat a machine well, it will do the same to you. Rushing or looking for short cuts or working when you are over tired just get things broke or hurt.