wounded CK25...

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yellolab

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Long story, but I need to fix my hoses and valve for my loader for my CK25HST. Not sure exactly what I need, so I'm looking for help/parts.

I have attached some pics, hopefully they tell the story well. Do I need new hoses, and can I replace the couplings?

Please bear with me, it's my first tractor repair.

Thanks in advance/Kevin
 

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/ wounded CK25... #2  
I'm gonna say check with your dealer as those parts are probably sourced from Korea when the tractor was designed. You might get lucky and find someone here who recognizes them though. It looks as though you need the cable assemblies and part of the valve that looks replaceable.

Steve
 
/ wounded CK25... #3  
When I have a hose break, I take the hose off the tractor and bring it in to NAPA Auto Parts and stand in line while they make me a replacement. I fill the new hose up with the proper hydraulic fluid and re-attach it. I am no expert but this worked for me.

Perhaps you can find a kit online for replacement in the entirety or you can order them from your dealer or you can do it peacemeal replacement as I described above.

Good luck.
 
/ wounded CK25... #4  
I got some bad news for you.....
That is not a hose, that is the cable in which you control you valve with.
I will be in the office tomorrow and I will look up the parts and let you know how bad it will hurt, if you plan on making the repair yourself we can asist you with a parts break down.
Please feel free to call me tomorrow I will be in from 9-5
Rick
(570)689 7494
 
/ wounded CK25...
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#5  
Rick, thanks for speaking with me on this yesterday.

The parts diagram you faxed me was perfect, and you were correct, I need both cables and both housings.

I will call you to place the order.

Thanks again for the help/Kevin
 
/ wounded CK25... #6  
;) :D
 
/ wounded CK25... #7  
Don't leave us hanging.... were you backing up and a stick popped up and jabbed the hoses? I had that happen to the front of the valve without too much damage to the actual hoses. The big dog metal pipe that feeds the valve is really low hanging from the factory and has also been "customized" on mine.

So what's the story? How did you get it back to the shop?
 
/ wounded CK25... #8  
I know that the CK25 and 30 are smaller tractors with less ground clearance but it seems like there has been numerous posts with wounded tractors. Steering drag link, hydro filter mounts, and now these loader control cables. I have only suffered a dented hydro filter. Easy fix. Maybe Kioti could try and design these vunerable areas tucked up higher, I know harder to work on, or with some shielding to make them a little tougher. Not all of us use our tractors on a flat lawn.
 
/ wounded CK25...
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#9  
I had the bucket fully raised, pushing against a tree, trying to knock it down for my food plot. It was leaning but would'nt go over. Back uo to get a little momentum, and when I hit the tree it went over, tractor rode up on the base of the tree, and of course the base kicked up, breaking the 2 housings and cables.

No problem getting it home, the bucket was just stuck in the full up position.

Kevin
 
/ wounded CK25... #10  
I'd consider that a well earned battle scar. Hard to knock the designers for not figuring out a way to prevent that type of damage. I haven't injured anything under my tractor yet but I've knocked the turnsignal lights off, dented the grill (despite the grill guard) and generally scraped things up a bit while dueling with Mother Nature. You cannot always anticipate how and where she's going to strike back. I just consider these injuries under the "cost of doing business" category and move on.
 
/ wounded CK25... #11  
IslandTractor said:
I just consider these injuries under the "cost of doing business" category and move on.
I Like that! :D It will become my mantra after I do the unthinkable! :eek: OK, once I do the unthinkable again! :mad:
 
/ wounded CK25...
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#12  
And I did'nt even mention to dent in the hood, grill and headlights assy torn out, and bent sway/tie rod bar....and I wish I ws just kidding :(

Kevin
 
/ wounded CK25... #13  
See that should teach you to always video tape these things. You could have gotten 10K on funniest video's, paid for the parts, and still had enough to take the wife out.
 
/ wounded CK25... #14  
yellolab said:
And I didn't even mention to dent in the hood, grill and headlights assy torn out, and bent sway/tie rod bar....and I wish I ws just kidding

To me that just means you've been having a lot of fun. Clean, polished and perfect tractors only belong in showrooms. To anthropomorphize it, those things just add up to a few bruises, skinned knees and dislocated fingers. Just the result of playing hard and being willing to get dirty. Love it.
 
/ wounded CK25... #15  
yellolab said:
I had the bucket fully raised, pushing against a tree, trying to knock it down for my food plot. It was leaning but would'nt go over. Back uo to get a little momentum, and when I hit the tree it went over, tractor rode up on the base of the tree, and of course the base kicked up, breaking the 2 housings and cables.

No problem getting it home, the bucket was just stuck in the full up position.

Kevin

Besides the obvious damage, this sounds like a good way to bend the loader frame. I've pushed a few over but, the ones that gave any resistance, I dug into the dirt at the base with the bucket first and that helped a lot. Backing up to hit it with the loader raised makes it fairly vunerable, as you've experienced.
I treat my tractor like I still owe $ on it.:D
 
/ wounded CK25...
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Islandtractor: when I figure out what "anthropomorphize" means, I'll respond :)

yeah, I'm way too hard on it, but in my defense I had visions of big bucks nibbling on my food plot :)


Kevin
 
/ wounded CK25... #17  
IslandTractor said:
To me that just means you've been having a lot of fun. Clean, polished and perfect tractors only belong in showrooms. To anthropomorphize it, those things just add up to a few bruises, skinned knees and dislocated fingers. Just the result of playing hard and being willing to get dirty. Love it.

I am sorry to disagree with you on this. :p When you drop rocks out of the bucket and bounce them off the hood, :eek: it is kind of like dropping your baby on its head. It I just plain hard to feel good about it under any circumstance. That is why you need the “mantra” to prevent you from doing serious injury to your own posterior, :rolleyes: which of course would then preclude your seat time, which is what is required to heal the wound you just inflected upon your pride and joy. ;) A vicious circle I will admit, but not one I try to avoid either. :eek: Also aren’t we Kioti owners semi-anthropomorphized anyway? ;) When we are getting seat time do we not feel as one with our machine? If any of this makes any sense, then you either are a crazed Kioti owner or are related to Sigmund Freud. :D
 
/ wounded CK25... #18  
Steverino said:
I am sorry to disagree with you on this. :D

No problem with gentlemanly disagreements. My point is that when engaged in a full blown tractor v. Mother nature duel, it is often difficult to be dainty and stuff will happen. It is not the same as more predictable mowing or plowing tasks. Branches snap back, you drive into thickets without anticipating how moving one thing with your FEL causes something else to snap and hit the tractor (or worse), vines snag tractor protrusions, etc etc. Basically, using a tractor to clear brush is bound to result in some minor human and tractor scapes and occasionally will result in worse (eg knocking out vital hoses etc). While it is critical not to do things that are lifethreateningly dangerous, it is hard to avoid taking some risks. Pushing hard on a tree to push it over or expose the roots is a good example of the types of moderate risk you just have to take. Sometimes the tree will go over faster than you thought and something bizzare like the roots snapping up your FEL hydraulics can happen. If we designed tractors for full time brush clearing you'd be able to avoid that type of thing but with a multipurpose CUT there are compromises so there is a risk of damage. I am very conscious of the risk of things falling on my head but less conscientous about the risk of limbs/roots etc snagging a hose or tearing up my turn signals (again). If it is repairable and the damage leads to inconvenience rather than expensive or painful/dangerous injury, I can live with that risk in order to get the job done efficiently.
 
/ wounded CK25... #19  
IslandTractor said:
No problem with gentlemanly disagreements. My point is that when engaged in a full blown tractor v. Mother nature duel, it is often difficult to be dainty and stuff will happen. It is not the same as more predictable mowing or plowing tasks. Branches snap back, you drive into thickets without anticipating how moving one thing with your FEL causes something else to snap and hit the tractor (or worse), vines snag tractor protrusions, etc etc. Basically, using a tractor to clear brush is bound to result in some minor human and tractor scapes and occasionally will result in worse (eg knocking out vital hoses etc). While it is critical not to do things that are lifethreateningly dangerous, it is hard to avoid taking some risks. Pushing hard on a tree to push it over or expose the roots is a good example of the types of moderate risk you just have to take. Sometimes the tree will go over faster than you thought and something bizzare like the roots snapping up your FEL hydraulics can happen. If we designed tractors for full time brush clearing you'd be able to avoid that type of thing but with a multipurpose CUT there are compromises so there is a risk of damage. I am very conscious of the risk of things falling on my head but less conscientous about the risk of limbs/roots etc snagging a hose or tearing up my turn signals (again). If it is repairable and the damage leads to inconvenience rather than expensive or painful/dangerous injury, I can live with that risk in order to get the job done efficiently.

Island I truly wasn’t disagreeing with you. It was my feeble attempt at sarcastic humor. It is probably better that I leave that arena to the late night comics. I actually am in agreement with you on using the machine for that which it was designed. I will reiterate though I still get that sickly feeling when I hear a loud ping and glad that I am not Gumby enough to do serious damage to my nether region. :eek:
 
/ wounded CK25... #20  
VictorW said:
I know that the CK25 and 30 are smaller tractors with less ground clearance but it seems like there has been numerous posts with wounded tractors. Steering drag link, hydro filter mounts, and now these loader control cables. I have only suffered a dented hydro filter. Easy fix. Maybe Kioti could try and design these vunerable areas tucked up higher, I know harder to work on, or with some shielding to make them a little tougher. Not all of us use our tractors on a flat lawn.

When I got a chance to bend the ear of the Kioti factory people at the
recent World AG Expo, I told them I had purchased 3 CKs and they were
great tractors with one exception: vulnerable hyd plumbing and filter
underneath. They acted like they had never heard this complaint. I pointed
to the DKs and how much better they were underneath. I have never
owned or even seen a tractor with more vulnerable underside than the CK30.
I do not consider the CK30 to be a "smaller tractor" among CUTs.
 

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