Yahoo !!! Gas crisis Over

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MikePA said:
Wrong. It was just a lot of SUPPLY AND DEMAND!!!!!!!!! Plus, the official black helicopter mantra is it was the speculators.


It DID start years ago. Where do you think the energy tax credits came from on the 1040 form?

Conservation and alternative energy are fine, but nothing, nothing, will come close to replacing oil in our lifetimes that's why we need to find more of it in the US.

Better keep it here first, who owns the oil companies? British Petroleum for one, Venezuela for another.

Oil company profits didn't get that high strictly from "supply & demand"! Not saying there isn't a supply problem, but corporate greed has increased the price greatly.

Byproducts from ethanol still make livestock feed!

Way to much of the food for this country is shipped in from other countries because of cheap labor & lax quality control in other countries!
 
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grnspot110 said:
Better keep it here first, who owns the oil companies? British Petroleum for one, Venezuela for another.

Oil company profits didn't get that high strictly from "supply & demand"! Not saying there isn't a supply problem, but corporate greed has increased the price greatly.

Byproducts from ethanol still make livestock feed!

Way to much of the food for this country is shipped in from other countries because of cheap labor & lax quality control in other countries!
I thought this thread was about refiners, not about countries who pump it out of the ground. I have no idea what ethanol, livestock feed and cheap labor have to do with fuel prices.
 
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grnspot110 said:
Better keep it here first, who owns the oil companies? British Petroleum for one, Venezuela for another.

Oil company profits didn't get that high strictly from "supply & demand"! Not saying there isn't a supply problem, but corporate greed has increased the price greatly.

Byproducts from ethanol still make livestock feed!

Way to much of the food for this country is shipped in from other countries because of cheap labor & lax quality control in other countries!

Without 'corporate greed' most of our 401(k)'s would be worth nothing. Corporations exist for one purpose, to make money for shareholders.

Any one of us that drives a gasoline powered automobile is the culprit for high gas prices.
 
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Wait till the olympics are over and that country goes back to normal mode.

Gas prices will resume their onward and upward price march.
 
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Last Friday I bought diesel at 4.61.

Tuesday afternoon it was 4.39.

Weds afternoon it was 4.27.

Thursday afternoon it was 4.21.

If the price keeps this up for a couple months and diesel will be under a dollar a gallon! :D

1, 2, 3 Everyone hold your breath! :D:D:D:D

Later,
Dan
 
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MikePA said:
I thought this thread was about refiners, not about countries who pump it out of the ground. I have no idea what ethanol, livestock feed and cheap labor have to do with fuel prices.


British Petroleum owns the BP stations you buy from & Venezuela owns Valero stations (money going out of this country). Check their profits & salaries w/benefits of the corporate executives!

Ethanol is being used as an excuse for the increase in food costs!

Read RonMars post (in this thread) about food costs! Tied to fuel costs!
 
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I thought this thread was about refiners, not about countries who pump it out of the ground

Thats not what I was thinking when I started it. I was thinking about the joy of being able to head for the open road and the sadness of realizing it probably won't last. You guys took it political.:( :( :(

Chris
 
   / Yahoo !!! Gas crisis Over #18  
The lead up to the oil price problems we are encountering today started about 20 years ago when it was decided that we should place ridiculous requirements on refinery construction, put our best domestic oil fields off limits to drilling and allow special interest groups to make energy policy. :mad:
Drill here, drill now, pay less.
Monitors, this is not a political statement :eek: but rather a statement of fact. ;) Check it out.
 
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grnspot110 said:
...Venezuela owns Valero stations (money going out of this country)...

Venezuela owns Citgo stations, Valero is a Texas company according to these articles
Circle K drops Venezuelan-owned Citgo gas and goes with Valero ォ The end of elite liberal media empires and rise of citizen journalism

Valero Energy Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The problem is you never know who any company is buying thier oil from, so they might still be supporting the Venezuelan's.
 
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I don't think there is any shortage of oil, nor has there been. Most of the reason for the price jump is from politicians making it more and more dificult to get the oil and refine it. When the President changed some of those restrictions, the world oil price colapsed. One single thing like that has had a huge effect, just imagine what the price of oil could be if the rest of Congress did what was right and stoped sucking up to their special interest groups?

I'm one of those people that do not believe we have a limited supply of oil. In my 42 years on this planet, I've been hearing about the end of oil and how we need to find another source of fuel. I've fallen for this and even worried about what will happen in the future when we run out of oil. But over the years, I've noticed that new oil discoveries are occuring all the time.

The theory that oil came from dinasours doesn't add up either. If this is true, how many dinasours had to die to create all that oil? I can't do the math, but even over millions of years, that's allot of dead animals that somehow turn to oil and work it's way down thousands and thousands of feet into the core of the planet.

Now it's come out that some of the oil reserves have started to replenish themselves. Where the level was down to a certain point from years and years of pumping it out, has now risin.

Then it's been discovered that certain types of beatles actually create crude oil in their poop.

I think there is allot of oil out there and we're being lied to about it in order to create an overall concern about it so that governments can create more money and control over it. It's kind of a conspiracy theory thing on my part, but nothing else makes any sense to me.

Eddie
 
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