yanmar 3110d and 3810d capability and reliability

jimb111 · Jul 25, 2005

Need some help on deciding which tractors (3110d and 3810d) would handle round bales of hay (Approx 1300 pounds). Also would like to get advice on reliability of the tractors. Thanks in advance for your help.

normde2001 · Jul 25, 2005

I doubt that either would handle a 1300# bale plus the attachment to carry it, safely and easily. They weigh a little over 2900#, so you are talking more than half the tractor's weight hung several feet off the back or front. My tractor weighs 1668#, and it certainly couldn't carry 800-900# hung off the back on a regular basis, if at all.

kenmac · Jul 25, 2005

look at a 2620D approx. 33 hp 3813 lbs & fill rears that may put it at 3900. I have a 3110 D rears filled. Don't know much filling the rears added but I can tell a big difference.

cfoxmd · Jul 25, 2005

I guess the question is how far out from the back of the tractor is the 1300#s? Too much of a lever arm and there is no way without a similar torque or lever arm on the front to keep the front of the tractor on the ground. Filled tires, front weights can make a difference. It all in where the center of gravity is located and how you can manipulate it.

Doc

LMTC · Jul 25, 2005

You start with the assumption that one of them will, and then ask the readers "which".

First off, it's the same tractor with/without a turbo. You really should start by asking WILL either handle. And the
simple answer is not even remotely with any margin of safety. Reliability of the tractor is immaterial. Operator life will be too short for it to matter. I am dead (pun intended) serious.

jimb111 · Jul 26, 2005

I forgot to mention that I would also have a FEL on whatever I buy and would be using the standard 3 PH with a bale spear. I was uncomfortable with the weight and all advice was very helpful.
What is the reliability of the tractors.
Thanks for every ones input.

cfoxmd · Jul 26, 2005

Yanmars are of very good reliability. You have to realize, however that they are used. There are grey market tractors and made for USA tractors. The made for USA tractors have good parts availability and support. The grey market tractors were made for use in Japan and are not supported by the manufacturer (at least in this country). PArts are harder to come by.

Some greys are used tractors that were originally sold in Japan and then were brought to the US after a period of use. Others have made a side trip to Vietnam for reconditioning--this process is the topic of large amounts of discussion on this board.

If you buy a common grey market tractor (some are almost orphans) there is fairly good availability. On the other hand, you need to be able to do some repairs yourself.

Prices are much lower, on average, than a comparable American tractor--this is the benefit. These tractors tend to be lighter for the HP than a comparable American tractor.

thegreatrandini · Jul 26, 2005

I always seem to disagree with the board but I think either tractor could do some limited moving of 1300 pound rounds...
You would have to equip your unit with counter weights etc.. Your fel would go along way toward this. You could pick up a bale with a 3 pt bale speer and move it around. I would not want to use a fel on a small tractor to stack bales without a safety cage. (which would not be practical) I have seen similar size Mahindra (which are heavy for the hp rating) move and stack large round bales.. 3810d is a pretty big unit and could take a fairly large capacity fel. I think if you were very careful and used counter weights you could move the large rounds that way also. They are not going to compare a jd 4630 or ih 1066 but you could move bales to feed a few horses etc.....

Bob_Skurka · Jul 26, 2005

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I'm far from an expert on the Yanmars, but my understanding is that both of those tractors are simply too small to be safe with one of those round bales. I would seriously suggest you listen to the members here who are established grey market tractor dealers/Yanmar dealers. My observation is that a lot of tractors are capable of lifting a static load but not a lot of those are capable of SAFELY transporting a load across a field. I'd seriously sit and talk to a dealer or two. Find the right machine for the job. I'd hate to be reading about you in the SAFETY forum.

cfoxmd · Jul 26, 2005

I agree with the safety issue. Without a ROPS, pushing the envelope in terms of weight and leverage is very risky. Probably too small a tractor, without the safety equipment needed that would be needed even with a bigger tractor.